Become a Paid Subscriber: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jon-atack-family--friends/subscribe Become a Paid Subscriber: https://anchor.fm/jon-atack-family--friends/subscribe jon atack, along with his son sam, present a series of educational podcasts on how to spot, avoid, and overcome unethical manipulation of all kinds - from destructive cults and abusive relationships, to advertising, groupthink, bullying and more. join us in our hope to create a world where people are taught from ...
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Mike Rinder answers Mirriam Francis's allegations
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Mirriam Francis asked Jon to put some questions to Mike Rinder. Here are his responses.Links:ChildUSAThe Australian Royal Commission on Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse - Scientology testimonyLisa McPherson's deathMike Rinder's blogThe Aftermath Foundation
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trust and healthy skepticism with Hoyt Richards
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documentarian and cult expert Hoyt Richards joins Jon to talk about how to develop healthy skepticism when our natural inclination is to trust. The conversation ranges through groupthink, confirmation or myside bias and our cognitive dissonance when presented with ideas that conflict with our own feelings of knowing.…
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Liberating Scientology's Sea Org slaves
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Jon and Spike discuss the plight of the few thousand people who are living as slaves in Scientology's Sea Organization.Links:The Foster ReportWhen men sold their wives at marketReport Scientology to the IRS, here (US Citizens only) Upload "The Truth about Scientology" pamphlet (scroll down to bottom)more on Spike's Xenu window - seriously, Spike wo…
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The Christian and the agnostic - with Rev. Callan Slipper, PhD
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Jon met Callan when they were two. Through elementary (primary) school, they were close companions. They have recently reacquainted themselves after two decades. Callan is an Anglican minister and a theologian who has advised archbishops. He talks about his spiritual development in his teens and shares his view of God. Callan and Jon also talk abou…
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understanding the sociopathic temperament with Shawn McCraney
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Redeemed predator Shawn McCraney quizzes Jon about life, the universe and everything. A conversation about reason and emotion, and how sociopaths feel. Shawn shares valuable insights that help to identify and understand human predators. Links: Study on Red Enhancing Competitive Athletic Performance The Mendota Study Jon's Tao Note from Spike: turtl…
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Toledo, Tarot &Trouble: Spike’s long, strange trip in the world of ritual magic(k)
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Spike has made a career out of helping Jon and other experts educate people about cults, authoritarianism, and mind control. But how did she get into the field? It’s a long and bizarre journey that starts with an over-imaginative child raised without a religion, takes us through a dangerous and destructive “magickal order” operating at a small Ohio…
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Ron Hubbard and Astounding Science Fiction with Alec Nevala-Lee
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Alec's Astounding is a brilliant account of the 'golden age' of science-fiction when John Campbell, jnr, brought together the writers who would thrust s-f into the public arena - Heinlein, Asimov, Van Vogt and, of course, Ron Hubbard. There is much to be learned from Hubbard's stint at Astounding. Without Campbell, Dianetics might never have seen t…
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psychedelics and psychotherapy with Professor Steven Moffic, MD
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Psilocybin, LSD, cannabis and MDMA are among the banned substances that have been shown to have potential benefit in therapy. Eminent psychiatrist Steven Moffic talks with Jon about the potential benefits and dangers of psychotropic drugs. A wide-ranging discussion about changing attitudes towards these substances and the need for caution and robus…
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when to leave a cult with Hoyt Richards
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documentarian, actor and cult expert Hoyt Richards talks with Jon about ending a toxic relationship, whether with an authoritarian cult or an abusive or unsuitable partner.
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recognizing human predators with Shawn McCraney
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Shawn used to be a full-blown human predator. He discusses Jon's model of the predator as it applied to him. This is one of the most important videos on our channel.upload your own copy of the predator poster from here:https://jonatack.co.uk/resources/
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cult leader syndrome with Joe Szimhart
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veteran cult expert Joe Szimhart suggests that many authoritarian cult leaders may actually suffer from a mental disorder that he has provisionally called 'cult leader syndrome'. Comparing this to imposter syndrome and with references to temporal lobe epilepsy, Joe and Jon discuss the maladies of Ron Hubbard, Elizabeth Clare Prophet, Osho, Rajneesh…
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euphoria and cult techniques with John Hunter, PhD
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Dr. John Hunter shows how authoritarian cults and large group awareness trainings (LGATs) create and then relieve stress to generate euphoria. John talks about his upcoming book and adds new insight to the processes of recruitment and the fervor induced by cultic involvement. Links:more on the Bear-Fedio indexMore fascinating material from John Hun…
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the redeemable predator - part 2 with Shawn McCraney
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Shawn is both by nature and nurture a human predator. He lived an utterly selfish life until an epiphany resolved him to learn how to care for others. Shawn changed from a violent, sex-addicted, entitled predator to a considerate and positive human being, but he still wrestles with his temperament every day. One of the most fascinating interviews o…
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the redeemable predator - part 1 with Shawn McCraney
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Shawn is both by nature and nurture a human predator. He lived an utterly selfish life until an epiphany resolved him to learn how to care for others. Shawn changed from a violent, sex-addicted, entitled predator to a considerate and positive human being, but he still wrestles with his temperament every day. One of the most fascinating interviews o…
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revisiting old haunts with Janis Gillham-Grady
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Janis joined Hubbard's crew at age eleven in 1968. She was a founder of the Commodore's Messenger Organization at age 12 and worked for Hubbard for the next eleven years. Janis has just returned from a group trip to some of the ports Hubbard's navy docked in fifty years ago and reflects on her experiences and the camaraderie she still feels with he…
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Gaza: genocide or resolution - with Dr. Steven Moffic
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Celebrated psychiatrist Professor Steven Moffic gives his concerned and compassionate view of the Gaza conflict. Steve and Jon talk about the use of culture to bring people together and the use of propaganda to tear them apart. We believe it is time to bury the hatchet and to bring the guilty to trial rather than the present assault by Hamas on the…
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telling your story is important for recovery - with Hoyt Richards
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actor and documentarian Hoyt Richards joins Jon to talk about the need to tell our story so that we can digest our experience and make something useful of it. With a short digression about the meanings of love.
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the cultic effects of Traditionalist Catholicism - with Anthony Spurgin
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Anthony Spurgin's parents joined a Traditionalist Catholic group when he was 12. At the age of 14, rather than going to high school, Anthony became part of a Traditionalist Catholic home-schooling co-operative. He talks about the traumatic effects of involvement with the group and especially the focus on sex as sinful. This talk shows how important…
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What is bipolar disorder and did L. Ron Hubbard suffer from it? with John Hunter, PhD
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A talk that will be very useful for anyone who suffers from bipolar disorder or for friends and family. John describes the symptoms of the different forms of bipolar disorder, and tells us how he manages his own condition. John explodes popular myths about bipolar disorder in a fascinating conversation. IMPORTANT NOTE:If you are feeling suicidal, h…
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Scientology, Mindfulness and the perils of present time with Joe Szimhart
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Joe Szimhart shares his remarkable knowledge of religious belief and helps Jon to assess the value of 'being here now.' Observations about Scientology, Ron Hubbard's childhood, Jon's brief time in a Zen monastery and Joe's experiences in the Church Universal and Triumphant. With reference to the origins of karma as a teaching, the separate 'bodies'…
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accountability and transformation with Hoyt Richards
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It can be very hard to take responsibility for your actions if you blame the manipulations of a cult for them. As Hoyt says, it is vital to take responsibility for your own story: it is a lot easier to fool someone than to persuade them they've been fooled. Some people blame themselves entirely for their negative behavior and others shrug it off be…
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Ron Hubbard: the Kali ceremony and ritual magick - with Janis Gillham-Grady
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Before creating Scientology, Ron Hubbard performed a ritual to incarnate the Wh*re of Babylon. Is Scientology itself perhaps an elaborate magic ritual? Hubbard also admitted to addiction to barbiturates in a Scientology lecture. At twelve, Janis was one of the original 'Commodore's Messengers' and spent time with Hubbard almost every day for eleven…
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why we don't always look before we leap - with John Hunter, PhD
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John Hunter PhD continues his fascinating explanation of the processes used in Large Group Awareness Trainings (LGATs). We begin with the ominously named Elaboration Likelihood Model, which explores how likely it is that someone will think before acting. John touches on Daniel Kahneman's System One - quick thinking - and System Two - considered thi…
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when groups go crazy - with Dr Steven Moffic
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A look at group psychosis, mass sociogenic illness, and the folie a plusiers with the eminent social psychiatrist Dr Steven Moffic. How groups can come to share absurd fantasies that can lead to atrocities. Recorded on 9/11 and especially relevant to the events of that day in 2001. Truth and Reconciliation and how music can help to integrate dispar…
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the troubled teen industry and the need to transform education - with Kacey from the Cult Vault
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Kidnapping, imprisonment, and traumatic rituals have been normalized in the 'brat camps' of the US. Kacey has interviewed survivors of this American equivalent of China's brainwashing program. Including a brief segment of genius and the need to transform our educational system.Links (NOTE: Spike is still sick and her brain isn't working completely …
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the End Days and magical thinking with Joe Szimhart
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Over the millennia, many groups have predicted the End Days as an aspect of phobia induction - a way of scaring recruits into following orders by scrambling their critical thinking. The Jehovah's Witnesses have issued a string of failed prophecies (the first for 1914, but also for 1975), Moonie founder Sun Myung Moon, Edgar Cayce and Jerry Falwell …
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Ruby Franke, Jodi Hildebrant, and child abuse in cults - with Spike Robinson
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s Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrant join the ranks of infamous child abusers such as the Duggars, the Turpins, and Lori Vallow, Jon and Spike have some news - the Franke/Hildebrant case is part of a much larger pattern, where, as Voltaire did not exactly say, those who believe in absurdities will commit atrocities. Simply put, when the parents espous…
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control through phobia with Hoyt Richards
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Film-maker Hoyt Richards talks with Jon about phobia induction in authoritarian cults and in society at large. We're in the midst of a panic about Artificial Intelligence which has become a bogey-man. Some of our fears may prove to be justified, but there is also the sense that we simply don't understand where AI might lead. All strong emotions - f…
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write your own eulogy now! - with Steven Moffic, MD
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eminent psychiatrist Steven Moffic has recently published a self-eulogy in Psychiatry Times. He talks with Jon about the benefits of assessing your own life. Both agree that 'enlightenment' may be the wrong goal in life and that our relationships with others are paramount. Dr Moffic mentions recent work on long-term grief and post-traumatic growth.…
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Manson, Scientology, and more
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Jon and Chris talk about how Manson's 150 hours of Scientology processing might have affected him and his actions - along with what drugs the "family" was taking, Manson's ultra-conservative family of origin, and much more.links: Jon's Manson article on Tony Ortega's Underground BunkerReconnection MagazineIndian Hemp Drugs CommissionJon's paper, Sc…
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large group awareness trainings, peak experiences and dopamine - with John Hunter, PhD
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in 2003, John Hunter had a manic episode. When he attended a Large Group Awareness Training (LGAT) in 2010, he was surprised to find that the 'transformations' promised from this intense experience lined up with the symptoms of hypomania - the euphoric state that precedes full-blown mania in bipolar disorder. John completed his PhD with a dissertat…
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William Branham's Message, the Nazis, Jim Jones and even the Kardashians with John Andrew Collins
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John Andrew Collins grew up in the royal family of the William Branham Message movement. His grandfather was the senior pastor at Branham's Tabernacle. John began to have doubts when he was 37 and started research that has continued for more than a decade. He is a prolific author who has revealed the intimate connection between some Pentecostalists…
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Janis Gillham-Grady on her years with Ron Hubbard and the search for Andrew Barton
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Janis joined Hubbard's ship at age 11. She was the first Commodore's Messenger and spent more than a decade at Hubbard's side. Her books give vital insight into the 'slave ship' and Hubbard's frequently traumatizing behavior. She is eager to have any information about her lifelong friend Andrew Barton, one of many disappeared Scientologists.links:J…
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camaraderie in cults with Hoyt Richards
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documentarian and thriving survivor Hoyt Richards joins Jon for a conversation about the positive effects of membership in negative groups and the camaraderie found during wars and catastrophes. Jon starts with Biderman's Chart of Coercion first devised to explain the steps of the Chinese Thought Reform Program and more recently applied to Guantana…
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The Brainwashing of My Dad - with Jen Senko
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Jen Senko talks about her fascinating documentary and the book of the same title which gives even more detail of the information war waging in the US. Jen's dad Frank was a thoughtful, considerate man who became a raging fanatic when his information sources were restricted to right-wing media - especially Fox "News" and Rush Limbaugh. Jen found tha…
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multi-level-marketing and pyramid schemes - with Doug Brooks
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Attorney Doug Brooks has created a website to help anyone entangled with a multilevel marketing organization. Doug shares his extensive experience in the field and offers sound practical advice to anyone who has been involved or is considering joining one of these get-rich-quick schemes which, as Doug says, benefit only the top one percent of membe…
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More on Manson with Kacey at the Cult Vault
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Jon digs deeper into the causes of the Manson Family murders with Kacey, who has also spent time researching Manson. Manson was passionately interested in Scientology while in prison. At least three other Family members were involved in Scientology. Popular works about Manson fail to understand that Scientology is an elaborate system of control tec…
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Let's cancel "cancel culture" - with Chris Shelton
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Should we be outraged that Roger Waters has been accused of anti-Semitism for a dramatic piece that shows the downfall of an authoritarian leader? We believe with John Stuart Mill's On Liberty which insists that we should never close our ears to disagreeable ideas and always be open to discussion. The Roger Waters video Jon mentions…
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what do we mean when we say God? with Joe Szimhart
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Joe and Jon have both spent their lives delving into belief systems, fascinated by the twists and turns that convince people to behave in benevolent or malevolent ways to those around them. A wide-ranging discussion about human perception of the divine that will doubtless unsettle some of the devout.Link: https://youtu.be/mdKst8zeh-U…
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tribe or cult? with Hoyt Richards
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documentarian, actor, and activist Hoyt Richards talks with Jon about Sebastian Junger's Tribe: Homecoming and Belonging and how ways in which authoritarian cults are tribes where recruits mistakenly believe they indeed found their home and feel they belong. Velasquez – the men of pleasure and the cretinsUN figures on modern slavery…
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narcissism, authoritarian cults and social psychiatry with Professor Steven Moffic, MD
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Professor emeritus Steven Moffic shares insights from his discipline of social psychiatry in a wide-ranging discussion about the prevalence of sociopathy in our society and the need for highly trained professionals to take a role in helping us to evolve towards better solutions and outgrow warfare. Including ideas about political leaders and the va…
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reason, emotion and morality with Chris Shelton, MSc
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Chris Shelton explains the model of behavior he is developing to understand cultic involvement. As ever, a lively discussion!Links:Hassan's BITE ModelLifton's Eight Criteria of Thought ReformCialdini's 7 Principles of Persuasionour "human predator" poster, prinatble and shareableJohn Oliver on Solitary ConfinementJane MacGregor's SEAT modelthe Spir…
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two wishes - parental alienation (and more) with Dr Nick Child
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Nick Child spent his working life as a family psychiatrist. He has turned his attention to the prevention of parental alienation with the international Two Wishes Foundation. The aim of Two Wishes is to replace the adversarial approach to parental separation and focus on the needs of the children involved. Nick and Jon start by talking about aspect…
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Sexually predatory groups: Cult Trip with Anke Richter
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Anke Richter is one of the few journalists who has seriously researched authoritarian cults. Her own positive experience with a neo-tantra group helped her to understand the devastations caused by three very different cults: Centrepoint and Gloriavale in Aotearoa, New Zealand, and Agama Yoga in Thailand. Centrepoint was a free-love cult whose leade…
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a warrior's journey in and out of Scientology, part three - with Mark Plummer
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For this part of Mark's story, he and Jon do a deep dive into Scientology's financial systems and the intricate rules of how staff are paid - if and when they are paid at all.
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the cult of the Singularity & the future of Artificial General Intelligence with Chris Shelton, MSc
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GPT-4 has caused a storm, including a petition signed by Elon Musk and Steve Wozniak for a moratorium on research while we ponder the ethical implications. Chris and Jon react to Jean-Pierre Jeunet's excellent comic take on AGI, Big Bug, and delve into the deeper issues, including Microsoft's admission that GPT-4 'hallucinates'.Links: AlphaGo beats…
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Bad Cadet - a childhood in Scientology's Sea Organization with Katherine Spallino
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Bad Cadet is an excellent addition to the welter of biographies by former members. Katherine Spallino was born into the Sea Org in Los Angeles and gives a vivid description of her childhood and coming of age. I had intended to skim the book before talking with Katherine, but found the material so compelling that I read from cover to cover. Katherin…
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a warrior's journey in and out of Scientology - with Mark Plummer, part two
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Mark continues the story of his amazing journey, including the shocking contents of the "cadet org / cadet estates org establishment eval", one of the most incriminating of all Scientology issues.This is part two; part one may be found herelinks: Mark's websitecadet org / cadet estates org establishment eval Lisa McPherson storySpike's note:Qual = …
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peak experiences, placebo, and the sunk cost fallacy - with Mike Rinder
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Mike Rinder worked closely with both Ron Hubbard and David Miscavige before escaping Scientology. Mike talks with Jon about Hubbard's strange daily schedule, his self-auditing, his foul temper and his decline after his first heart attack in 1974. Mike and Jon also discuss peak experiences and the part that expectation or placebo plays in them, alon…
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a warrior’s journey in and out of Scientology - part one - with Mark Plummer
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Mark "Warrior" Plummer has had an amazing life, of which his membership in Scientology is only a small fraction - but a fascinating one!Join us as Jon and Mark talk about Mark’s early days in Scientology, his entrance into the Sea Org, and his eventual exit and first days protesting against Scientology abuses.Links:Mark's websitefor more on Gregg H…
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