The fun side of miles, points and travel! Hosted by Shawn Coomer and Mark Ostermann, MTM Travel dives into the points hobby & the lifestyle of travel with topical conversations and plenty of laughs along the way. Mark & Shawn have a combined 18 years of experience covering these topics on Miles to Memories and Travel on Points and are cohosts of the popular MtM Vegas Youtube Show on the Miles to Memories Vegas channel. They also host the 20 Minute Travel news show on this same feed where you ...
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Travel isn’t just for the rich. I teach people how to supercharge their credit card points so they can pay for entire family vacations every year. I've been redeeming miles and points to pay for travel for over a decade. Points have taken our family around the world. But one thing sets me apart -- our family flies economy because business class isn't worth the extra effort for us. But this podcast isn't about me and where I've been -- it's about you and your goals. I focus on "normal" and st ...
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Are you tired of not being able to travel because it's just so expensive? Do finances keep you from your dream destinations and making memories with your family? In this podcast, we show you how you can fulfill that dream of traveling without spending more money. We've earned millions of credit card points to travel all over the world and take our families on amazing vacations. Vacations to Hawaii, Europe, and Disneyland are all possible for nearly free with credit card points and miles. By ...
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Do you struggle to understand how people travel using points and miles from credit cards? It can be easy to waste a lot of time learning travel hacking on your own, especially if you find it complex and confusing. Let us pull back the curtain and show you how you can maximize money you're already spending to earn enough credit card points and miles to travel with your family for nearly free. We've used credit card points and miles to take our family of 5 on trips to places like Costa Rica, S ...
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In this episode, Pam shares her full itinerary from her recent return to Thailand—a dream trip she’s been wanting to repeat since her very first adventure on points and miles years ago. From business-class flights on Singapore Airlines, to luxury stays at the Conrad, Ritz-Carlton, and Banyan Tree—and of course, daily massages for $12—Pam takes us t…
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Insane Chase Sapphire Rumor, Rejecting Airport Lounges, Hyatt Crackdown & No Real ID Meltdown?
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40:14Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description This week Mark and Shawn discuss a number of interesting topics in the travel realm including the rumored upcoming changes to Chase's premium flagship card Sapphire Reserve. As part of …
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Phoenix Staycation: Hilton Phoenix Tapatio Cliffs (Summer Staycation Series Pt 1!)
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26:59CHASE SAPPHIRE 100K OFFER!!! (major thanks for using our links!) Follow us on Instagram @travelpartyof5 Discover our first episode in the Summer in Phoenix staycation series where we visit the Hilton Phoenix Tapatio Cliffs to determine if it's worth your points or dollars for a family getaway. • Hilton Phoenix Tapatio Cliffs is nestled in the mount…
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Partner Airline Deals for Booking Alaska & Hawaiian Flights
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22:29Click MORE to see Ad disclosures Welcome to Points for Normal People! Today I’m going to show you how to book Alaska and Hawaiian flights for less by leveraging partner airline points. We'll explore options with Finnair, Qatar, JetBlue, American, and Singapore Airlines, including tips for maximizing your savings. I’ll break down everything from usi…
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127. Would You Rather!? – Points Talk Edition
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42:48This week’s episode is a little different—and a lot of fun. Jess, Pam, and Alex are joined by Traci for a special game of Would You Rather!? – Points Talk Edition. Traci challenges the squad with a lineup of delightfully diabolical travel questions designed to reveal where they really stand when it comes to their points and airline preferences, per…
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Cardless No More, Earn Amex Points With A Chase Card, Dueling Coastal Trips & Hyatt House Woes
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41:22Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description This week Mark and Shawn crossed paths to head towards opposite coasts for miles & points meetups. On this show they'll discuss their respective trips to Monterrey, CA and Virginia Beac…
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Positioning Flights for Families – What You Need to Know!
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32:37RideSafer Vest CHASE SAPPHIRE 100K OFFER!!! (major thanks for using our links!) Follow us on Instagram @travelpartyof5 Positioning flights are a strategic tool for families who want to access better award flight availability and save money when traveling. These flights take you from your home airport to another airport where you'll begin your main …
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126. Jess’s Family Trip to Japan on Points—Spring Break for $200?!
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47:44In this episode, Jess takes us step-by-step through her family’s spring break trip to Japan—a points and miles masterpiece that cost just $200 total out of pocket for four round-trip flights and multiple hotel stays. From first class flights to washer/dryers in hotel rooms, this trip had it all. Whether you’re dreaming of cherry blossoms, bullet tr…
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CHASE SAPPHIRE 100K OFFER!!! (major thanks for using our links!) We spent 24 hours in Chicago before flying to Paris using points and miles, staying at the Intercontinental Magnificent Mile and exploring the city with our three kids. This strategic positioning flight saved us points while giving us an exciting mini-vacation in Chicago with deep dis…
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Sneak Peek Inside Points Talk Premium: Ask Us Anything
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6:34In this sneak peek from Points Talk Premium, we’re giving you a taste of one of our monthly “Ask Us Anything” episodes—where we answer real questions from our subscribers about using points and miles to travel smarter. Subscribe to Points Talk Premium for full access to monthly deep-dive tips, behind-the-scenes content, and personalized Q&As. Subsc…
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Cap One's Giant 400K Bonus, Misleading Travel Ads, MGM Goes Iconic & Insane Food Presentations!
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19:00Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description This week several new card offers came out along with some that are ending. MGM launched their interesting Iconic card which gives you a path towards spending to higher status in a much…
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125. TMS Heads South of the Border—Points-Powered Trips to Mexico & Honduras
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48:03In this episode, the Travel Mom Squad is heading south! Jess shares her birthday trip to San Miguel de Allende, Mexico, and Pam and Alex walk us through their tropical getaway to Roatán, Honduras. From charming colonial cities to vibrant beachside resorts, both of these escapes were powered by points and miles—and they’re breaking down exactly how …
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Last Minute "Free" Trip to Europe, Economy vs. Business, Having 6 Hilton Cards & An Epic Detour
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39:10Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description On this episode of MTM Travel Shawn and Mark discuss last minute plans including Shawn's "free" cruise and his upcoming trip to Europe. Economy vs. business, flying into other airports,…
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CHASE SAPPHIRE 100K OFFER!!! (major thanks for using our links!) Premium economy offers a valuable middle ground between business class and economy, giving families significantly more comfort without the high price tag of business class tickets. • Premium economy on Air France features better seat recline and footrests • Cabin arrangement is typica…
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250K Bonus + Kicker, Hilton's Best U.S. Redemption, Safety of Helicopters & "Free" Money from Wells!
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20:03Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description This week several increased card offers came out including a new version of Amex's popular "no lifetime language" Business Platinum offer. Find out how to see if you are targeted for 25…
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Alaska and Hawaiian Miles for Domestic Award Flights
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17:55Click MORE to see Ad disclosures Welcome to Points for Normal People! Today we're diving into two airlines perfect for trips to and from the West Coast and Pacific Northwest, or flights to Hawaii and Alaska: Alaska Airlines and Hawaiian Airlines! With their merger underway, things are shifting, creating some unique opportunities, especially a cool …
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124. All About the IHG Hotel Program
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31:26In this episode, we’re diving deep into IHG One Rewards—a hotel program that often flies under the radar but has serious potential. From practical Holiday Inns to luxury Kimptons and InterContinentals, we’re sharing our experiences using IHG points and free-night awards, how we earn them, and why buying IHG points (yes, buying!) can actually be a s…
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AA Does Good, Madness of Apps, Chinese Social Media Response & Universal's Epic Expansion!
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39:25Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description On this episode of MTM Travel Shawn and Mark follow up on Mark's AA status match "battle" including a great resolution and some tips if you are in the same position. They also discuss t…
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Lessons Learned from 2 Weeks in Europe with Kids!
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43:10CHASE SAPPHIRE PREFERRED 100K SIGNUP BONUS!!! (THANK YOU FOR USING OUR LINK!!!) $40 off Away Luggage (we have the "Bigger Carry On" in 4 different colors!) Duane's shoe bag Raya's Carryon backpack (affiliate link) Duane's Men's Crossbody (affiliate link) Raya's crossbody bag (affiliate link) Raya's toiletry bag (affiliate link) Raya's mini backpack…
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Big Amex Downgrades, Airline Status Matches Galore, Chase's HUGE Deal & Travel Treasure Hunting!
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22:16Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description This week we learned of some expected changes coming to the American Express Business Platinum card. With the addition of Hilton credits last year, we have now seen a downgrade to other…
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Amex Points Explained: The Good, The Bad, and The Rules You Need to Know
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29:04Click MORE to see Ad disclosures Welcome to Points for Normal People! Let's tackle a topic I get asked about a lot: Amex Membership Rewards. Honestly, I have mixed feelings – the points themselves can be fantastic for travel, but the cards? They definitely come with extra rules and quirks, making them feel more intermediate level. Still, since you'…
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123. Behind the Magic—Ways to Save at Disney World This Summer
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52:29In this episode, Jess and Alex are sharing all the magic, insights, and travel tips they brought back from a recent media event at Walt Disney World. From exclusive behind-the-scenes tours to exciting new ticket and resort updates, they’re joined by Megan—Travel Mom Squad’s Disney expert—to talk about how to make a Disney trip more affordable, less…
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Battling with AA, Easy $200 Offer + Mark & Shawn Do Vegas!
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39:34Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description On this episode of MTM Travel Shawn and Mark go over their recent weekend adventures in Vegas which includes many off the Strip sights plus the Capital One lounge, New York New York hot…
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Madrid on Points and Miles, as a Family of 5!
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44:21The activities we did in Madrid (Food Tour and Flamenco show!): vi.me/1T9xd If you're planning a trip to Europe using points and miles or have questions about traveling as a family of five, follow us on Instagram @TravelPartyofFive where we share highlights and tips from our adventures. In this episode: We travel to Madrid as part of our two-week E…
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Hyatt's Casino Bonanza, United's New Hotness, Chase Sapphire 100K Online & More Bad Southwest News!
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22:41Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description This week Chase & United launched all new revamped credit cards top to bottom. In addition to increased welcome offers they raised the prices on their annual fees and added a bunch of o…
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Best Avios Strategies for Domestic American Airlines Flights
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23:03Click MORE to see Ad disclosures Welcome to Points for Normal People! Today I’m sharing the current best strategies on how to use Avios to book American Airlines domestic flights! With these methods you can book flights to Hawaii from anywhere in the US for 30,000 points round trip – or less! It used to be that British Airways offered a great way t…
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122. Pam's Trip to New Zealand Using Points and Miles
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41:52New Zealand has been high on so many of your travel wish lists—and for good reason! In this episode, Pam shares details from her recent two-week adventure on the North Island of New Zealand, including how she booked business-class flights, multiple free hotel nights, and even covered rental cars and excursions—all using points and miles (and one fo…
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Baha Mar Paradise or Overpriced - Staying for "Free" in Nassau, Water Park, Room Review & More!
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45:49Episode Description On this episode of MTM Travel Shawn and Mark discuss Mark's recent family Spring Break trip to Baha Mar in Nassau. This new aged megaresort has just about everything for the family but it comes at a cost. We'll discuss how you can save with miles & points at Baha Mar plus what to expect with the rooms, beaches, water park and mo…
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Barcelona with Kids, Using Points and Miles!
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46:01The tour we did (churros and chocolate) and the tour we almost did (dragon tour!): vi.me/bWWul Barcelona captivated us with its stunning architecture, vibrant culture, and delicious cuisine while we strategically used Hyatt points and upgrade awards to minimize travel costs. We navigated rainy weather by pivoting our plans, discovering indoor treas…
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American Airlines Miles: Best Ways to Earn & Redeem for Domestic Flights
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25:27Click MORE to see Ad disclosures Welcome to Points for Normal People! In this episode, we're diving into American Airlines miles. I know a lot of you want to use points for domestic travel, and American is a good option. We'll talk about the best times to use your miles on American flights, and how to earn those miles. I'll cover the pros and cons,…
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121. Top 3 Ways to Use Each Flexible Points Currency
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40:36Not sure how to maximize your points? In this episode, we break down the top three ways to use each of the four major flexible points currencies—our favorite points currency (IYKYK), American Express Membership Rewards®, Capital One Venture Miles, and Citi ThankYou® Points—so you can book travel smarter. Our favorite points: Best for Hyatt & Flight…
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Crazy Spring Break Audible, Last Minute DFW Flights, Hotels & Activities + Getting Chase Aeroplan
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44:28Episode Description On this episode of MTM Travel Shawn is joined by Joe Cheung to discuss his recent application for the Aeroplan card and how Joe is planning on taking his family to the European Christmas markets. The bulk of the show focuses on Shawn's Spring Break trip which included a same day audible from a road trip to a Dallas Fort Worth ad…
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Paris on Points as a Family of 5!
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44:17Paris Macaron Class: vi.me/mTi2C Bespoke Family Tours of Paris with Zoe at The Petit Guide (we did the Montmartre tour) Photo shoot: Flytographer! If you've never used them before, use my link to get $25 off your first photo shoot! In this episode, we're sharing how we took our family of 5 to Paris using travel points, showing how we explored Paris…
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Hyatt Elite Carveouts, US Bank's 4% Mistake, Hotel Ice Hack, Up to 185K Bonvoy & Debit Rewards Cards
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19:34Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description This week we learned that Hyatt has changed their terms to give another property an exemption from honoring elite benefits. With their exclusion list growing longer and longer is this a…
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Award Flights Made Easy: My Simple Research Process
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19:43Click MORE to see Ad disclosures Welcome to Points for Normal People! In this episode I'm sharing my exact process to research the best domestic award flights. I’ll walk you through the initial steps I always take before even thinking about searching for award availability. I'll show you why it's so important to understand your routing options and …
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120. How Megan Used Points & Miles for the Ultimate Harry Potter Family Trip
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43:17What’s better than throwing a Harry Potter-themed birthday party? How about taking your child on a real Harry Potter adventure across Scotland and London! That’s exactly what Megan did for her daughter’s 10th birthday—making the magic come alive with points and miles. In this episode, Megan explains how she made this trip happen for her family of f…
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Hyatt's Chicago Problem, Destroying Southwest's Brand, Reevaluating Lounge Certs & Bahamas Preview!
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39:08Episode Description On this episode of MTM Travel Shawn and Mark dive into some of the changes Southwest announced after our previous show. It's far worse than anyone imagined including cuts in benefits, no free bags, basic economy and more. Are they destroying the brand or will it grow from this bigger and better than ever? We also discuss Mark's …
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How We Booked 2 Weeks in Europe on Points as a Family of 5!
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23:42We break down exactly how we booked our entire family of five for a two-week European adventure across Paris, Barcelona, and Madrid using points and miles. This trip demonstrates how strategic credit card usage, elite status benefits, and advance planning can transform an expensive dream vacation into an affordable reality. • Booked 5 economy seats…
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Season 3 Premiere: Unlocking Domestic Flights with Points & Miles
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21:22Click MORE to see Ad disclosures Welcome to Points for Normal People! Hey everyone, welcome back to Points for Normal People! I am so excited to kick off Season 3 with you today! We're going to get into all things domestic flights and points this season, which is going to be a bit of a step up, getting into some of those intermediate strategies. If…
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Southwest's Devaluation & Betrayal, Nintendo Livery, Mileage Broker Warning & Cap One Fine Dining?
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19:38Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description This week Southwest knocked the socks off of their customers in the worst way possible with a gutting of points earnings followed by tons of other changes. We also discuss: mileage brok…
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119. Sexy vs. Unsexy Award Redemptions
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22:09We all love talking about luxurious, over-the-top award redemptions—think first-class flights, overwater villas, and five-star resorts. But let’s be real—some of the best uses of points and miles are not Instagram-worthy. In this episode, we break down the difference between sexy and unsexy redemptions, why both are important, and how they each pla…
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Southwest Airlines Huge Devaluation, Ending Daylight Savings & Universal's Epic Year
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43:59Join MTM Diamond before the price goes up. Limited slots have opened up, but membership will be closing soon. More info here: https://www.patreon.com/c/milestomemories Episode Description On this episode of MTM Travel Shawn and Mark are joined by Joe Cheung to discuss the recent Southwest Airlines devaluation that was a shock to everyone. What has …
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What's With all the Credit Card Denials?!?!?!
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33:39We explore strategies for handling credit card denials and share insights on navigating bank-specific rules to improve approval odds while discussing recent Hyatt award chart devaluations affecting popular properties worldwide. • Cancellation strategies for point bookings when plans change, including leveraging elite status for fee waivers • Compre…
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Carnival in Rio De Janeiro! Flights, Hotels, Points Redemptions & Tips + Is It Safe?
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45:57Join MTM Diamond before the price goes up. Limited slots have opened up, but membership will be closing soon. More info here: https://www.patreon.com/c/milestomemories Episode Description On this episode of MTM Travel Mark debriefs his recent trip to Rio for Carnival. We go over the logistics of the trip including hotel and flight redemptions to di…
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Hilton Free Nights Are Back, Capital One Discover Strategy, AA's Free WiFi & Credit Card "Art"?
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19:59Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description This week American Express and Hilton released increased offers on most of their cobranded cards. Specifically the Surpass and the no annual fee card have great welcome offers which inc…
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Trip Planning for Families: My Entire Process, Start to Finish!
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39:39Link to my entire trip planning checklist for FREE! Planning a family trip can be stressful, but it doesn't have to be. Our discussion revolves around creating a structured timeline to help you earn points and maximize your travel experience. - Sharing a detailed planning timeline starting 18 months prior - Discussing how to choose travel destinati…
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118. Going For the Gold or Picking Up Platinum: All About American Express Cards
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41:40If you've been eyeing an American Express card but aren’t sure which one to get, you’re in the right place! In this episode, we break down two great personal cards—the American Express® Gold Card and The Platinum Card® from American Express—and two great business cards—the American Express® Business Gold Card and The Business Platinum Card® from Am…
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Hyatt's Brutal Award Changes, Shutdowns Galore, Best New Airport Lounge & White Lotus Holidome?
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24:36Get an easy $200 from Melio for making your first payment! (Affiliate link. Terms below) https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/travelonpointsteam Episode Description This week Hyatt released their annual hotel category changes and they are about as brutal as we have seen in years. While no new categories are being introduced, many of the most popula…
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117. How to Book Family Flights to Europe Using Points and Miles
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40:49Dreaming of taking your family to Europe without draining your wallet? In this episode, we sit down with our team member and resident Europe travel expert, Traci Siegel, to share her tried-and-true tips for flying a family overseas using points and miles. These strategies will help make your dream a reality! Family Travel 101: The Big Differences F…
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Shutdowns Galore, Newly Unlocked Fear of Flying, Self Upgrading to First Class & Sad Influencers!
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44:33Join MTM Diamond before the price goes up. Limited slots have opened up, but membership will be closing soon. More info here: https://www.patreon.com/c/milestomemories Episode Description On this episode of MTM Travel Shawn and Mark discuss the recent aviation disasters and the wider conversation about the safety of air travel. Is flying more dange…
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