KOL190-2 | Part 2: On Life without Patents and Copyright: Or, But Who Would Pick the Cotton? — Panel Discussion, Hoppe, Dürr, Kinsella, van Dun, Daniels (PFS 2015)

Kinsella On Liberty

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 190-2. Also podcast as PFP145. In 2015 I delivered this talk: “On Life without Patents and Copyright: Or, Who Would Pick The Cotton?” at the Property and Freedom Society, 10th Annual Meeting, Bodrum, Turkey (Sep. 13, 2015), which is here: KOL190 | On Life without Patents and Copyright: Or, But Who Would Pick the Cotton? (PFS 2015). This is the subsequent panel discussion with Q&A from the speakers for that day, to-wit: Hans-Hermann Hoppe, David Dürr, Stephan Kinsella, Frank van Dun, Anthony Daniels (Theodore Dalrymple). Transcript below. Panel discussion video: TRANSCRIPT Panel Discussion, Q&A: Hoppe, Dürr, Kinsella, van Dun, Daniels (PFS 2015) by Hans-Hermann Hoppe, David Dürr, Stephan Kinsella, Frank van Dun, Anthony Daniels Property and Freedom Society, 10th Annual Meeting Bodrum, Turkey (Sep. 13, 2015) 00:00:23 HANS-HERMANN HOPPE: Somebody approached me with a wish – it was a question, if email addresses would like to be shared. I did not want to do anything without the people’s permission, so there will be a list at the front desk where you can maybe – the name list of all the participants where you can either write your email address in there or not if you prefer not to make your email address known to others. So whoever is interested, please take advantage of the opportunity, and David Durr wanted to make a brief announcement too. Give the microphone. 00:01:17 DAVID DÜRR: Maybe first concerning also the email address, I was asked by some of you whether I could send you these slides of this morning so you could look at it closer with all the writings. So my email address to just give it to you is D-U-E, double R at swisslegal in one word, swisslegal. This is the name of our law group, dot C-H. And then may I add this? Some people ask me whether what I gave in the speech is also somewhere written in an article. So there are not long and thick books of me yet on this matter. I do have two books here. They are not as sophisticated and scientific as the one of Hans. And namely they are not so English. They are German. 00:02:27 One is (indiscernible_00:02:29) which means state opera. Switzerland, you know, the state as a big opera. It’s the state house actually as opera house, and the subtitle is Few Stars, Many Startists. So this is one – I just have one copy of each if you want to look at this, those who read English, or if you want to buy it or order it, so it’s here. The second one is I have a regular column in a newspaper in Switzerland, and these are sort of anarchic – anarchist columns, and the collection of this is in another book. They are always on Fridays in that newspaper, so it’s “Das Wort zum Freitag,” the world to the Friday, not to the Sunday as usual, to the Friday, so this is the second book. Thank you. 00:03:31 Q: Which newspaper is it? Which newspaper? 00:03:33 DAVID DÜRR: It’s called Basler Zeitung. It’s a – people say it’s a right-wing newspaper. They are very open in that they have, through all parties, columnists, but I like the newspaper as such, but I’m very independent. I had one column once when I compared IS or ISIS with US. I said, well, actually it’s about the same thing. US is just bigger, and that gave huge protests from the newspaper itself. And then this gave me an opportunity just to put one on the top because right afterwards these CIA reports came up about torture practices. That was a wonderful example to insist on it anymore. 00:04:41 00:04:49 Q: Okay. My question is for Stephan Kinsella. It’s a question, not an argument. What is the case for private photos and pictures shared over the internet on Facebook and someone else is using it? What is the argumental basis on that from the IP perspective? 00:05:13 STEPHAN KINSELLA: What’s the justification for using someone else’s? 00:05:15 Q: Using, or do they need our permission, without permission?