Martin, Into the Corner (featuring Gio Pennacchietti)

System of Systems

The boys are joined by friend, artist, writer and co-host of the Break the Rules Podcast Gio Pennacchietti to discuss PAINTING. Painting, so much and so little to say. Its history, its dreary present. The tendency towards what Dean Kissick calls "zombie figuration" and what separates the brilliance of Matthew Barney from the average new media artist. But mostly, we discuss four artists to emerge out of postmodernism or later that we believe are upholding some nobler archetype of the painter historically: Anselm Kiefer, Justin Mortimer, Martin Kippenberger, and Michael Krebber.

Soundtrack:

Skullflower "Shit Strasse" (https://music.apple.com/us/album/shit-strasse/1058051213?i=1058051222)

Mobb Deep ft. Nas and Raekwon "Eye for an Eye" (https://youtu.be/OOPjFkVJbew)

Grouper "Wind and Snow" (https://youtu.be/1OPm1LU2cbA)

Grouper "Vapor Trails" (https://youtu.be/U_rxkLzcTg0)

The Hymn of Kassiani (https://youtu.be/JrJnbtTSywY)

Fairuz "Estantere" (https://youtu.be/GlOVmZx_qu0)

Test Dept. "Fist" (https://youtu.be/w4yQnunUqSw)

Dead Can Dance "Black Sun" (https://youtu.be/VPd-MSr19qI)

The Rolling Stones "Stray Cat Blues" (https://youtu.be/oOSYB38y2xA)

Brian Eno "Tal Coat" (https://youtu.be/10uVS6ssCxU)

Erik Satie "Gnossienne No.3 " (https://youtu.be/3c_RU2NcJ9c)

Image:

Martin Kippenberger "Martin Into the Corner, You Should be Ashamed of Yourself"

LINKS:

Gio on Twitter: https://twitter.com/giantgio?lang=en

Gio's Wordpress: https://gioscontentcorner.wordpress.com/author/giopennacchietti/

Break the Rules: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPKaSxQ7frxGAwgaQ29P9Eg

Alastair Mackinven interviewed by Adam: https://safetypropaganda.substack.com/p/safety-propagandist-3-alastair-mackinven

Justin Mortimer's website: http://justinmortimer.co.uk/

Anselm Kiefer at Gagosian: https://gagosian.com/artists/anselm-kiefer/

Martin Kippenberger at Gagosian: https://gagosian.com/artists/martin-kippenberger/

Michael Krebber at Greene Naftali: https://www.greenenaftaligallery.com/artists/michael-krebber