We coach small business owners to uncover the things they cannot see, and implement systems and processes that help them live their business on purpose
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Welcome to Business Growth On Purpose hosted by Jose Palomino, CEO of Value Prop Interactive. Every week, you’ll hear insights from leading B2B growth experts and veteran business owners from around the world. You’ll also hear Jose’s own insights gained from a few decades of B2B sales and marketing experience. The result is THE show for B2B Owners who are hungry for growth, stuck on a revenue plateau, or just want better ways to deal with the everyday challenges of revenue growth. If you nee ...
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The Dickie & Donny Show Season 2 Episode 1: How to Write a Vision Story for Your Business
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30:02What would it look like if you had a clear vision for your business that everyone could run toward? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray walk through creating a Vision Story for the future of their podcast. They reveal why writing down a detailed vision is more than just an exercise—it becomes …
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The Simple Marketing & Cash Management Process That Helped This Builder 5x His Project Size
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7:23We happen to work with a lot of contractors, but it doesn’t really matter what type of business you’re in. There are so many business owners that want to scale their product, actually grow the value of their product. They want to go from selling a product or service that’s X and offers X at this price, to being able to 2x or 5x it—make it more robu…
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The Dickie & Donny Show Ep 20: Navigating 5 Stages of a Business from Survival to Legacy
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48:48Is your business stuck in survival mode—or are you building toward a lasting legacy? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray sit down with Scott Beebe to unpack the five stages every business goes through. From the early challenges of survival to the long-term vision of creating something that end…
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The Hidden Chaos Holding Back Your Contracting Business (And How to Stop It)
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4:59You know that dashboard in front of you when you get in a car and start driving it around? One of the things you're looking at, obviously, is the speedometer, odometer, the fuel gauge—those sorts of things. But it’s also those lights, those warning lights that can come up and let you know what the performance of the car is doing. And so in business…
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The Dickie & Donny Show Ep 19: Are you OVERfunctioning in leadership?
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24:09Is your leadership running at full speed… but your energy running on empty? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray dig into a silent leadership killer—overfunctioning systems—and how they quietly drain your capacity, weaken your team, and leave you teetering on the edge of burnout. Are you steppi…
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Hate Conflict? 10 Ways To Confront Tough Situations
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10:24Well, there are some things that I love in life and there are some things that I want to avoid like the plague. Conflict is one of those. I am not one of those that looks to run into conflict. In fact, I would classify myself as pretty conflict averse. But I’ve had to learn over time that leadership requires these things to come out eventually. Tha…
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The Dickie & Donny Show Ep 18: Time is Irrevocable
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25:31Is time quietly slipping through your fingers? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray tackle one of the most underestimated truths in life and business: time is irrevocable—once it’s gone, it’s gone forever. Are your days packed but your priorities untouched? Do urgent tasks keep pushing out the …
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From Frustration to Flow: Building a System-Driven, Growth-Minded Business (for less than 50 employees)
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5:47Most of the businesses we work with have less than 100 employees. In fact, if you were to do a bell curve, you'd see that most of our clients fall somewhere between five and 50 employees in that sweet spot. So we tend to give a lot of examples. The majority of our clients are in the contracting space or the AEC space—architecture, engineering, cont…
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The Dickie & Donny Show Ep 17: Finding Your Business Rhythm
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31:51***Disclaimer: We do not own the rights to the song “Typical.” All music credit goes to Mutemath.*** Is your business stuck in a chaotic cycle of trial and error? In this episode, Dickie & Donny (BOP Coaches Shawn Stinson and Brandon Gray) reveal the secret to sustainable growth: mastering the balance between predictable "typical" rhythms and innov…
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Master Process Roadmap: Streamlining Operations for Unstoppable Efficiency On One Sheet Of Paper
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5:22We've been liberating owners from chaos for a little over 10 years now at the time of this recording. When you look back at the history or sort of the anthology of what we've seen built in these tools in the Business On Purpose Operating System, we've realized that one of the core tools is something that we call the Master Process Roadmap. If you l…
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The Dickie & Donny Show Ep 16: How Trust Builds Winning Teams
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23:57Is lack of trust holding your team back? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray dive deep into one of the most overlooked challenges in business: team trust. Are your team meetings full of dread instead of energy? Do people hesitate to ask for help? Are weaknesses hidden instead of addressed? The…
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Every Business Owners Can Grow Using These Five Simple Tools
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7:35Recently, Ashley and I have had the privilege of meeting with some young couples and talking to them as they're just coming into marriage or preparing to be married. They often ask us a variety of questions, as you would expect from anyone talking to a couple who’s been married for a while. One of the big issues that consistently comes up early in …
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The Dickie & Donny Show Ep 15: Cash Management Strategies for Business Owners
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37:39Feel like your business is earning but still wondering where the cash went? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, Business Coaches Brandon “Donny” Gray and Shawn “Dickie” Stinson share proven cash management strategies every business owner should know. From using multiple bank accounts to implementing a profit-first approach, they walk throug…
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The Dickie & Donny Show Ep 14: Stories- Modtub
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30:39Curious about how a cold plunge business got its start in a garage? In this episode of The Dickie & Donnie Show, we talk with Jesse Hodge, founder of Mod Tub, about his journey from corporate life to building a successful direct-to-consumer brand. Jesse shares how he transitioned from flipping used hot tubs to creating a cold plunge product that’s …
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We have the opportunity to be out in front of business owners and with business owners a lot—both in our speaking and our coaching. One of the things we hear over and over again is the sense that people just don't want to work, or that they're not willing to do the things we need them to do. Or, “It's just easier if I do it myself,” right? Well, th…
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How To Delegate So You Focus On Your Best Use Of Time
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5:28If you go way back thousands of years, you can actually read a historical account of a guy named Bezalel. In this account, it says that God gave him a skill—the ability to build, to create craftsmanship in all sorts of crafts, and also to teach. At Business On Purpose, we are firmly convinced that God has given each of us a capability—or multiple c…
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The Dickie & Donny Show Ep 13: 4 Action Steps to a Successful Team Retreat
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24:47Need help planning a team retreat that’s actually productive and fun? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, BOP Business Coaches Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray break down the 4 key ingredients to a successful team retreat: Food, Agenda, Clarity, and Team building—or as they call it, FACT. Learn how to bring your team together…
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In preparing for this recording, it just gave me a total PTSD flashback to the pandemic. And we had the Great Resignation. Oh, my goodness. At the time of this recording, it’s 2025. I was just thinking about that, and I was also thinking about this idea that once we find a great teammate—a great team member—we want so badly to keep them. I think ab…
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The Dickie & Donny Show Ep 12: How the F Word Can Save Your Business from Chaos
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18:19Need help turning a warm lead into a real opportunity? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, BOP Business Coaches Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray tackle the F-word of sales—Follow-Up—and why it’s the make-or-break skill most business owners ignore. Discover how to follow up without being annoying, what makes a lead perishable,…
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How To Budget Your Time Like You (Should) Budget Your Money
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8:18When we first meet business owners, it's kind of like anything else. We try to make ourselves look better than we typically are doing. And so we tell some stories that may or may not be true. In that process of getting to know business owners, we realize that there's a lot underneath the surface that we want to be able to explore—to see, ultimately…
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The Dickie & Donny Show Ep 11: The Secret to Powerful Presentations
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26:52Want to communicate with clarity and confidence in your next speaking opportunity? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, BOP Business Coaches Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray share practical ways to prepare for public speaking engagements that support business growth. Discover how to organize your content, understand event expe…
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Well, it's first thing here in the office. These are the times that, when I'm in town—we travel quite a bit for work—I like to be able to come in when it’s not super busy because you can actually get a lot of things done. But how do you know that you're not really tiptoeing around like a mouse, micromanaging everybody else that's coming in, and mak…
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The Dickie & Donny Show Episode 10: The Anchor Team Calendar- Is your team in sync?
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40:58Feeling like your team is busy—but not always on the same page? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, BOP Business Coaches Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray unpack the Anchor Team Calendar—a simple but powerful tool to bring structure, rhythm, and focus to your operations. You’ll discover how to map out key business activities l…
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How Does a Business Owner Lead Instead of Micro-Manage?
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5:30I've worked in and around plenty of people during my day, as I'm sure you have, that had the title of leader. And yet, the fruit of their work was a little suspect based on their title. In reality, we could call it micromanagement. But how do we know the difference? Hey, it's Scott Beebe with Business On Purpose. Let's talk about that briefly here …
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The Dickie & Donny Show Episode 9: Financial Forecasting – The One Tool That Brings Radical Clarity to Your Business
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32:02Worried about where your business is headed financially—or if you’ll even break even? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, BOP Business Coaches Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray dive into one of the most powerful tools in your business toolbox: financial forecasting. They’ll show you how to build a clear, straightforward spread…
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Should You Hire For Experience Or Potential?
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4:57We were in Dallas last week and had a number of people come up to us after our sessions, workshops, or keynotes asking a variety of questions. A lot of those questions were around employees—how to find them, recruit them, hire them, and retain them. One of the biggest subsets of questions we heard was: do we hire for experience or do we hire for po…
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The Dickie & Donny Show: Episode 8- Cutting edge AI technology for old school construction practices
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32:31Wondering how AI can fix what’s broken in the renovation process? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, BOP Business Coaches Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray talk with Melissa Wood, Founder and CEO of FORMUS, about how AI is being used to solve real-world construction headaches. From streamlining pre-construction planning to cu…
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Having Confidence In Finding New Hires: Hire For Experience or Potential?
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5:11All things in life have their chicken-and-egg debate—Which one came first? This is one of those situations that, in the world of business ownership, you're trying to figure out: Is it better to hire someone with great experience, or do you bring in someone younger and train them up? What do you do with that? We're going to be answering that, and I …
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The Dickie & Donny Show: Episode 7- Building a sales system for explosive growth and ideal client engagement
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32:33Struggling to close leads or wondering why your sales system isn’t working? In this episode of The Dickie & Donny Show, BOP Business Coaches Shawn “Dickie” Stinson and Brandon “Donny” Gray break down what it really takes to build a reliable, repeatable sales process that works. From managing expectations to nurturing trust across regions and indust…
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How Labor Employees Find Value In 401k's, Direct Deposit, and Simple Savings Plans
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5:01Well, we sure do field a lot of questions from a lot of frustrated owners over our time. In fact, this coming week we'll be in Dallas speaking at a Build Expo, and I highly anticipate these questions will come up around this issue of employee engagement. How do I make employees feel valued? How do I make them feel engaged with what we're trying to …
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The Dickie & Donny Show: Episode 6- Longevity in Business: Are You Set Up to Last?
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32:00Balancing the demands of work and building a long-term business? In this episode of "The Dickie & Donny Show", BOP Business Coaches Shawn "Dickie" Stinson and Brandon "Donny" Gray sit down with David Privitera, Founder & Principal of Focus Forward Advisory, to discuss the key strategies for running a successful business. With over 30 years of exper…
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One Simple Strategy for Training Your Team
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4:54When you think about it, a military command and a sports team—what do those two things have in common when they're not either in a battle or playing a game? At the time of this recording, we're almost at the end of March Madness and these teams have been in training, training, training. Right? So military command—if they're not fighting a battle, t…
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The Dickie & Donny Show: Episode 5- Can Your Business Thrive Without Sacrificing Life?
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22:08Feeling the tension between work and home life? In this episode, BOP Business Coaches Shawn "Dickie" Stinson and Brandon "Donny" Gray are joined by BOP Business Coach Brent "Darryl" Whitaker to talk about how life and business always intersect—and what happens when we don’t acknowledge it. From setting rhythms and boundaries to defining what matter…
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How To Keep Employees From Being Lazy or Freeloading
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4:52So many business owners get frustrated because they feel like many times employees are freeloading or they're just lazy throughout the day. And the more we talk about this, the more we realize that many people think it has to do with the generations. Does it? I'm not sure. Hey, it's Scott Beebe with Business On Purpose and I'm super excited to be a…
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The Dickie & Donny Show: Episode 4- What's REALLY Going On With Your Cash Flow
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22:34Feeling stuck trying to forecast your revenue or make hiring decisions with confidence? In this episode, BOP Coaches Shawn “Dickie” Stinson, Brandon “Donny” Gray, and Head of Coaching Thomas "Doc" Joyner break down how the right financial tools bring clarity to your business—and sanity to your schedule. ✅ Spotting hidden holes in your cash flow ✅ U…
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How To Build A Loyal Crew and Retain Top Talent When "Nobody Wants To Work Anymore"
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5:34Tonight, Shawn and I—one of our coaches—are heading up to the Northeast where we've been invited to speak and present to a group of contractors in Providence, Rhode Island at the JLC LIVE convention. We're super excited about it. When we attend trade shows and talk to contractors—or really, any other business owners—we hear a common refrain: "Nobod…
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The Dickie & Donny Show: Episode 3- Why Your Core Values Matter More Than You Think
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28:52Struggling to define what makes your business unique? In this episode, BOP Business Coaches Shawn "Dickie" Stinson and Brandon "Donny" Gray explore the power of Unique Core Values—the key to building a business that reflects your vision and stands out in your industry. ✅ Crafting core values that resonate with your team ✅ Defining what makes your b…
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A Simple, One-Page Way To Forecast Your Unpredictable Business Revenue
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6:34Hey, we'll have a business owner come up to us and go, "I just can't sleep." You know, we’ll say, “Hey, how was your night last night?” “I didn't sleep very well.” “Well, why not?” “Because my head's constantly spinning, constantly thinking about everything that's downstream and I can't seem to get my head around it.” This is a common refrain that …
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The Dickie & Donny Show: Episode 2- What’s Holding Your Team Back? Discover the Big 5 Feedback Loop!
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24:09Feeling the pressure build in your business? In this episode, BOP Business Coaches Shawn "Dickie" Stinson and Brandon "Donny" Gray dive into the Big 5 Feedback Loop—a simple rhythm of communication that keeps your team engaged, aligned, and growing together. ✅ Real-time performance check-ins ✅ Consistent accountability ✅ Space for honest feedback ✅…
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Contractors Should Use This Simple Spreadsheet To See If They Are "Making" Money
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6:09Hey, we say all the time that for contractors, the tools of your trade are not hammers, nails, levels, all of that. The tools of your trade—especially in project management—are calculators, calendars, subdivided bank accounts, and spreadsheets. And so I wanted to dive into that today. There are a lot of contractors trying to figure out job to job. …
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The Dickie & Donny Show: Episode 1- The Secret to Team Meetings That Actually Work
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16:14Tired of team meetings that feel like a waste of time? It’s time to take them from boring to breakthrough. Join BOP Business Coaches Shawn Stinson and Brandon Gray as they discuss team meetings on "The Dickie & Donny Show." In this episode, we break down the 5 key elements of effective team meetings that keep your team aligned, focused, and product…
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How To manage your cash so it flows predictability and freely
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8:41When you're a business owner, you struggle so much with cash flow. It seems when we have these conversations with so many different business owners, one of the biggest questions we get all the time has to do with various elements of cash flow. These questions come to us at different times and in different ways. Hey, it's Scott Beebe with Business o…
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Take Control of Your Cash: A Simple Strategy for Contractor Financial Health
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4:05We typically work with business owners between three and 100 employees. That’s usually the range where those businesses don’t yet have a full-time, full-scale CFO (Chief Financial Officer). They may have a controller or other roles, but it’s one of those areas where owners are left wondering, “How do we track our money if we don’t have someone dedi…
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What Are The Hidden Financial Drains Affecting Your Business?
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6:05In our time with business owners, a lot of the headache has less to do with finding the products and services. The innovation usually comes pretty easy for entrepreneurs. But the reality of finding and filling these financial drains in the business is what really can cause the challenge. Hey, it's Scott Beebe with Business On Purpose, and a heads-u…
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2 Ways To Combat Loneliness As A Business Owner
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5:54Recently we spent two nights in the Sahara desert. The desert is so mystical and vast that you feel ill-equipped to tie your mind around its endless borders and landscapes. So much of the desert fascinates. Of course, we saw camels, real mirages, and sand. What bent our minds were the thousands of other living things we saw in the desert – trees, g…
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I just returned from being out of the country for 9 days and I was inaccessible to our business team. No email, no cell phone, no text, no Slack. My wife had her cell phone on and we called some of our friends just to share what we were seeing, but I handled no day-to-day business while I was away. It’s the third time I’ve done that in two years. E…
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20 Marketing Questions Every Business Owner Should Ask - Part 4 with Jose Palomino || Ep 417
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31:37All good things come to an end – like this marketing series. Today, we wrap up our twenty questions with questions about people and budgets. From influencers to staff to testimonials, Jose discusses five critical questions business owners ask about their marketing. What should my B2B marketing budget allocation look like, and how can I optimize it?…
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Crafting Your Growth Vision with Daniella Genas || Ep 416
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27:16Our guest today is Daniella Genas of She’s The Boss International. Daniella works with entrepreneurs and owners looking to get to the next level. In today's episode, we will talk about the need for a practical vision and implementation steps to move you, the owner, from being the hub of every wheel in your company to being the leader of your compan…
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20 Marketing Questions Every Business Owner Should Ask - Part 3 with Jose Palomino || Ep 415
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29:30Ready for another installment of our 20 Questions - Marketing Edition? This week, we are dipping our toes in the world of marketing tech, discussing platforms and strategies that many business owners struggle to grasp. From webinars to automation to data analysis, Jose is here to help break it down for you. This week, Jose will cover: What are the …
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Business Life is Part of Life with Jacob Baadsgaard || Ep 414
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25:34Our guest today is Jacob Baadsgaard CEO and founder of Disruptive Advertising. In this episode, we will discuss the owner's role in a growing business, and how to maximize success in both business and personal life. Jake is an entrepreneur at heart. He is a person who prioritizes relationships and enjoys learning from other people's life experience…
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