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A podcast about cults, extreme belief, and manipulation – from two hosts who’ve actually lived it. Hosted by Lola Blanc and Meagan Elizabeth. Got your own story about cults, extreme belief, or manipulation? Leave a voicemail or text us at 347-86-TRUST (347-868-7878) OR shoot us an email at Trust Me Pod @gmail.com INSTAGRAM: @TrustMePodcast @oohlalola @meaganelizabeth11 TWITTER: @TrustMeCultPod @ohlalola @baberahamhicks TIKTOK: @TrustMeCultPodcast
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Welcome to 'Manipulation Games: Psychology & Marketing,' a podcast that delves deep into the intricate dance between the human psyche and the world of marketing. Join hosts Gene and Darren as they explore how psychological principles influence marketing strategies, and vice versa, revealing the subtle art of persuasion that shapes our decisions and behaviors. Each episode of 'Manipulation Games' will take you on a journey through fascinating topics at the intersection of psychology and marke ...
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Have you ever wondered how your choices in a toxic relationship will impact your children? Today Lizzie candidly shares the guilt that she has endured after realizing the pain caused by her ex's, and how it has affected her now grown children. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us…
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We're going to talk about the power of communicating with your eyes! We start by exploring the cooperative eye hypothesis, which explains how the visible whites of our eyes play a crucial role in nonverbal communication. Unlike other primates, human eyes are designed to communicate direction and intention, enhancing cooperation and survival. We tak…
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Today our guest is Madi Stroud. She was featured on the HBO docu series Love Has Won, and is late cult leader Amy Carlson’s daughter - the one whose mummified body was found wrapped in Christmas lights in Colorado. Madi shares what she remembers of her mom as a kid, how it felt after Amy suddenly left Madi and her brothers when she was only 7, and …
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Deana & Lizzie discuss the tragic, unfolding story of Mica Miller, her apparent suicide, possible grooming and domestic abuse, and what WE can do to STOP the future Mica Miller tragedies in our own circles of family & friends. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and …
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We are joined by data-nerd and audience marketing expert Andrew Bloom from Neustar's global business solutions. Andrew shares insights on data-driven marketing, Bayesian thinking, and the intricate world of programmatic advertising. The hosts delve into Andrew’s journey from freelance hustler to ad tech expert, providing listeners with a comprehens…
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Dr. Inna Kanevsky, psychologist, professor, and debunker of pseudoscience psychology TikToks, discusses the misinformation videos that got her started on the path of debunking, why mental health labels can be helpful but can also lead us to incorrectly self-diagnose and take on labels that do not belong to us, and why it’s a problem when we make a …
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We explore the nuanced world of body language and its critical role in marketing and personal interactions. We delve into how understanding and manipulating body language can be a powerful tool in navigating people's defenses and influencing their actions. Key Points: - Introduction to Body Language: The hosts begin by discussing the fundamental as…
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Deana and Lizzie host a special guest, Alexis, as she tells the story of her significant other who convinced her that a gang was controlling him and threatening their family. This gang would harm her, unless she did unthinkable things to appease them. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and f…
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Today is part two with Warren Kohl, former member and religious leader within the 2x2s (Meagan's secretive childhood group that technically has no name). Today we'll hear how Warren left behind his dreams of medical school to become a "worker" (a minister who stays in people's homes). He'll talk about the pressure to speak with some kind of authori…
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Deana discusses hers and others experiences with covert (silent) bullying at work, and how it leaves the victim feeling confused, demeaned, targeted, and like a total failure. If this bullying continues, the end result is cognitive dissonance and extreme confusion, depression and anxiety in the workplace. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Dro…
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In this episode of "Manipulation Games: Psychology & Marketing," join hosts Gene and Darren as they unravel the intricacies of copywriting—a crucial element in the toolbox of any marketer. From the basics of copywriting to its profound impact on consumer behavior, this discussion takes you on a deep dive into how words can influence and persuade. G…
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Today's guest is Warren kohl, a fifth generation member and former “worker” (or minister) in the 2x2’s, the group that Meagan grew up in. Warren shares how devout he was to the group at a very young age, having your entire life controlled, and how utter heartbreak in high school led him to celibacy and a deeper commitment to the group. Trust Me is …
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Today, Lizzie, Deana, and special guest Tiffany dive into the topic of dating after divorce from the toxic narcissist, and whether they would choose a "Christian" to date this time around? Also discussed was the church's role in teaching & exemplifying healthy boundaries, instead of becoming a place where predators thrive and find their next victim…
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Welcome to "Manipulation Games: Psychology and Marketing," where we peel back the layers of the marketing world to reveal the psychological strategies and data-driven insights that make it tick. Join us as we dive deep into the mechanisms behind effective advertising and how to maximize the 'aha' moments that lead to success. In this episode, we ex…
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Psychologist, trauma bond expert, and author of Run Like Hell: A Therapist's Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma Bonds, Nadine Macaluso share about her relationship with ex-husband Jordan Belfort (aka The Wolf of Wall Street) and how it led her to become a therapist with a focus on trauma bonds. They also discuss "mind mapping",…
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Lizzie and Deana discuss the "marriage covenant" which can be a beautiful, sacred promise between two people and God. But when is it NOT a covenant that God has ordained? Was God in it at all? Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagram. We would love to have y…
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Lizzie and Deana discuss ways to support a friend or family member who is caught in the cycle of abuse. Spiritual Bypassing is one method that is covered, as it is highly ineffective as a means of comfort, or direction. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagr…
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In part two with Zoe and Lilly, survivors of Midwest Academy, one of the abusive troubled teen programs in the same organization that was spotlighted in the docuseries The Program: Cons, Cults, and Kidnapping, we dig deeper into Lily’s experience. She’ll tell us how she was in solitary confinement for two months, and how her reaction was to rebel i…
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In this episode of "Manipulation Games: Psychology & Marketing," hosts Darren and Gene delve into the cerebral tug-of-war that underpins our decision-making processes. The episode kicks off with a captivating discussion on the intriguing psychological phenomenon of alien hand syndrome, setting the stage for a broader exploration of how this reflect…
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Survivors of the infamous WWASP schools, Zoe & Lillian, share about their experiences being forced to join Ivy Ridge, Midwest Academy, and Casa by the Sea; All schools featured in the current Netflix docudrama, The Program: Cons, Cults, and Kidnapping. Lola & Meagan dig into how these programs were marketed to parents, the dramatic ways Zoe & Lilli…
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Jarron shares his story of being molested at age 15 by a trusted church youth leader, red flags look for, and his advice to not keep it a secret, as difficult as that may be. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagram. We would love to have you join us on our …
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Enjoy the fun but poignant episode of Happy Hour where we discuss moving past your past, your Ex, and finding the YOU that has been erased or hidden-- Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagram. We would love to have you join us on our FB group; Women of Faith…
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In part two with former LuLaRoe seller, Roberta Blevins, they discuss everything about LuLaRoe's founder DeAnne Brady and her family, the mother figure role DeAnne provided in Roberta's life, dealing with toxic positivity, and a thorough list of MLM red flags to look out for. Plus, how Roberta finally realized that she was in a cult and how startin…
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Deana discusses her 26 year marriage to a sexually addicted man and the constant turmoil, shame, and confusion caused by his behavior. Also, common myths about sexual addictions. Lastly, how to know if an addict is really willing to change, or if you're just a pawn in their game?? Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! The…
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In part one with former LuLaRoe seller and Life After MLM podcast host, Roberta Blevins, she'll share how she first got involved in MLMS, what LuLaRoe was like, what the deal was with the wet smelly leggings, and what made realize that she did not want to be a part of MLM life anymore. We'll discuss how MLMs make good people act badly, what "huns" …
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Welcome to "Manipulation Games: Psychology and Marketing," where we dive deep into the strategies that shape perceptions and drive consumer behavior. In this episode, titled "Defining Glamour: The Art of Visual Persuasion in Marketing," hosts Darren and marketing expert Gene Alder explore the fascinating world of glamour—its history, impact, and ap…
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Welcome to the inaugural episode of our yet-to-be-named podcast, where we dive headfirst into the world of creativity, randomness, and the beauty of letting things evolve organically. Your hosts, Gene Alder and Darren Kim, embark on a journey of exploration, not just into the vast world of marketing and psychology but into the very fabric of our be…
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Abigail shares her moving and tragic story of the severe physical abuse she endured at the hands of her husband, finding the courage to leave, face him in court, and even risk the loss of her relationship with both children. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and In…
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This week, Lola and Meagan's guests are... Lola and Meagan! They talk about the cult of seeing everything as a cult, discussing how things that might seem a little culty don’t necessarily inherently mean that a group IS a cult. They’ll discuss political polarization, online miscommunication, group dynamics that happen in ALL groups, and the differe…
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In part two of this listener story with Operation Light Force survivor, Katelyn Hlavaty, Lola and Meagan unpack how the leader's bogus healing protocol, which involved digging into old trauma, eventually led to Satanic Ritual Abuse. Katelyn shares how isolation from her family and a period of spontaneous remission from her bout Crohn's disease deep…
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Did you know that a toxic relationship can actually affect your brain? Stress, anxiety, and the constant uphill battles create a surge in adrenaline. Too much of this hormone (for too long) will overwhelm your brain, causing exhaustion, difficulty thinking, finding the right words, or remembering ANYTHING. What can you do to relieve it? Check out o…
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Picture this; You are married 40 years, each year you get smaller and more insignificant....while trying to be a perfect wife, mother, and co-provider for the household you slowly lose yourself. He is indifferent, he is cold, and now....he is cheating on you. This is Tammie's story........ Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, any…
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In part one of this wild listener story, Katelyn Hlavaty chats with Lola and Meagan about her experience in the evangelical healing ministry group, Operation Light Force. Katelyn shares how she joined the group when she was isolated and struggling with Crohn's disease, and how the group's promises of community, God, and literal physical healing see…
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Lizzie and Deana decide to grab a drink, and lighten things up a bit. In this episode, they discuss surviving their traumatic relationships, divorce, and starting over in mid-life, as well as what they are doing now. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagram.…
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Sara Gorman, public health expert, CEO & founder of Critica, and author of Denying to the Grave: Why We Ignore the Facts That Will Save Us, joins Lola and Meagan to discuss the importance of the scientific method, why presenting evidence can feel like an attack, common debunked beliefs that persist in American culture, and the role that media plays…
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Former Sea Org member and niece of Scientology leader David Miscavige, Jenna Miscavige, talks about leaving "The Ranch" in order to join the Sea Org, getting involved in higher level management, how she barely knew her own parents, the constant level of paranoia she saw from everyone at all levels, what it was like to date within the Sea Org, how s…
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