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#15 - What Is Queerness? Christianity's Subverting Influence - Part 1 with Michelle and Will

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תוכן מסופק על ידי David Frank and TJ Espinoza, David Frank, and TJ Espinoza. כל תוכן הפודקאסטים כולל פרקים, גרפיקה ותיאורי פודקאסטים מועלים ומסופקים ישירות על ידי David Frank and TJ Espinoza, David Frank, and TJ Espinoza או שותף פלטפורמת הפודקאסט שלהם. אם אתה מאמין שמישהו משתמש ביצירה שלך המוגנת בזכויות יוצרים ללא רשותך, אתה יכול לעקוב אחר התהליך המתואר כאן https://he.player.fm/legal.

Join us as we (David, TJ, and our friends Will and Michelle—who are asexual/queer) explore ideas of what “queerness” means. While we can’t come to one single definition, we hit on a kaleidoscope of topics as we explore the weirdness inherent in the word “queer,” the queering influence of Christianity, queerness and the arts, and ontological questions about queer sexual orientation.



A Few Quick Definitions for Your Optional Reference


asexuality: a lack of sexual attraction or desire for sexual activity (see Wikipedia)
ontology: the philosophical study of the nature of being, what it means to be; the nature of inherent personhood.
autognosis: self-knowledge; the understanding of one’s own psychodynamics, character, nature, abilities, etc.
theosis: the process of humans becoming more like God (this theological concept is prominent in particular in Eastern Orthodox Christian theology)


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Timestamps


Conversation with Michelle and Will:
1:30 - Introductions
3:50 - Queer as a neutral word for “weird”
9:25 - Early and medieval Christianity—Origen, consecrated virgins, Franciscans, and Anchorites
16:00 - Queer theory—destruction of cultural norms, avoiding oppression
18:10 - Queerness, the arts, and avoiding “the game”
(TJ’s definition of “queer” at 20:15: “a special affinity for people of the same sex”)
23:50 - Self knowledge (“autognosis”): becoming more ourselves, more like Christ
29:00 - Self creation: identity narcissism in our current culture
30:50 - Michelle on art that knows oneself, community, and God
33:10 - TJ on difficulties with ontology and gender norms


Further Thoughts from David and TJ:
38:35 - Ontology: queerness as inherent vs. queerness as essence (i.e., an established trait vs a core, created good)
42:10 - Defining queer: “same-sex affinity” vs. “challenging dominant cultural norms”
49:15 - On the social construction of (queer) identity categories
55:15 - Why “queer” should not be synonymous with “broken”


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Links and References


S04E10 | Collin, Michelle, & Will on Being Ace (w/ Grant)” (Life on Side B podcast)


Article: “Is Theatre Really Queer?


Book: On the Incarnation by Athanasius (read online)


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Share feedback or questions on our website podpage.com/communion-shalom or emailing us at communionandshalom@gmail.com.


If you like this podcast, please consider supporting us on Patreon: patreon.com/communionandshalom


This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newkinship.substack.com
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תוכן מסופק על ידי David Frank and TJ Espinoza, David Frank, and TJ Espinoza. כל תוכן הפודקאסטים כולל פרקים, גרפיקה ותיאורי פודקאסטים מועלים ומסופקים ישירות על ידי David Frank and TJ Espinoza, David Frank, and TJ Espinoza או שותף פלטפורמת הפודקאסט שלהם. אם אתה מאמין שמישהו משתמש ביצירה שלך המוגנת בזכויות יוצרים ללא רשותך, אתה יכול לעקוב אחר התהליך המתואר כאן https://he.player.fm/legal.

Join us as we (David, TJ, and our friends Will and Michelle—who are asexual/queer) explore ideas of what “queerness” means. While we can’t come to one single definition, we hit on a kaleidoscope of topics as we explore the weirdness inherent in the word “queer,” the queering influence of Christianity, queerness and the arts, and ontological questions about queer sexual orientation.



A Few Quick Definitions for Your Optional Reference


asexuality: a lack of sexual attraction or desire for sexual activity (see Wikipedia)
ontology: the philosophical study of the nature of being, what it means to be; the nature of inherent personhood.
autognosis: self-knowledge; the understanding of one’s own psychodynamics, character, nature, abilities, etc.
theosis: the process of humans becoming more like God (this theological concept is prominent in particular in Eastern Orthodox Christian theology)


__________


Timestamps


Conversation with Michelle and Will:
1:30 - Introductions
3:50 - Queer as a neutral word for “weird”
9:25 - Early and medieval Christianity—Origen, consecrated virgins, Franciscans, and Anchorites
16:00 - Queer theory—destruction of cultural norms, avoiding oppression
18:10 - Queerness, the arts, and avoiding “the game”
(TJ’s definition of “queer” at 20:15: “a special affinity for people of the same sex”)
23:50 - Self knowledge (“autognosis”): becoming more ourselves, more like Christ
29:00 - Self creation: identity narcissism in our current culture
30:50 - Michelle on art that knows oneself, community, and God
33:10 - TJ on difficulties with ontology and gender norms


Further Thoughts from David and TJ:
38:35 - Ontology: queerness as inherent vs. queerness as essence (i.e., an established trait vs a core, created good)
42:10 - Defining queer: “same-sex affinity” vs. “challenging dominant cultural norms”
49:15 - On the social construction of (queer) identity categories
55:15 - Why “queer” should not be synonymous with “broken”


__________


Links and References


S04E10 | Collin, Michelle, & Will on Being Ace (w/ Grant)” (Life on Side B podcast)


Article: “Is Theatre Really Queer?


Book: On the Incarnation by Athanasius (read online)


__________


Share feedback or questions on our website podpage.com/communion-shalom or emailing us at communionandshalom@gmail.com.


If you like this podcast, please consider supporting us on Patreon: patreon.com/communionandshalom


This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newkinship.substack.com
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