Two theologians walk into a bar... No, seriously: This podcast is about the real world of politics and current events, seen through the lens of Catholic teaching and spirituality. Your hosts, Fr. Dan Horan and David Dault, bring you a mix of perspectives, from Abbey Road to Metaphysical Graffiti. Dan is a Franciscan friar and Catholic priest. David is a radio producer and Catholic convert. They both have doctorates in theology. It is the best possible kind of nerdy.

"Things Not Seen" talks with people of faith who are working to make sense of why we are here and how we can all live together despite our deep differences in belief. The show is hosted by Dr. David Dault, and features guests from a broad spectrum of public life, with in-depth conversations about real struggles at the intersection of faith and culture.