If Then Else with TC Von is your off-roading guide to being badass and bold. Listen up to hear about starting companies, writing novels, being a rock star, discovering new science, herding cats (really) and making deals. Funny, straight up talk about the hard choices you make to succeed on your own terms with the folks who do it. If Then Else Series 1: Fear & Boldness. Boldness is what it looks like after you've gone through the fear.