Countering the Swarm: America’s Drone Deterrence Strategy

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🎙️ At the Boundary reaches its 100th episode with a critical conversation on one of the fastest-growing threats in modern warfare: drones. Host Jim Cardoso is joined by Dr. Stacie Pettyjohn and Molly Campbell to explore why the U.S. must urgently rethink its counter-drone strategies—before it’s too late.

From the looming risk of a Taiwan conflict to the rise of low-cost Chinese drones, this episode examines:

• Why expensive missile defenses are unsustainable against cheap drone swarms
• The need for layered defenses and operational resilience
• The role of sensors, directed energy weapons, and low-cost interceptors

If you care about national security, emerging military technology, or the U.S.’s ability to compete in great power conflict, this episode is a must-listen.

📍 Recorded at the University of South Florida’s Global and National Security Institute (GNSI) in Tampa, Florida.

Links from the episode:

• Register for CyberBay Here!

• Countering the Swarm: Protecting the Joint Force in the Drone Age

At the Boundary from the Global and National Security Institute at the University of South Florida, features global and national security issues we’ve found to be insightful, intriguing, fascinating, maybe controversial, but overall just worth talking about.
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