Episode 98: Campus Protest of "The Notre Dame Ten": 50th Anniversary

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On November 18, 1969, during the height of the Vietnam War, a group of Notre Dame students protested the presence of Central Intelligence Agency and DAO (Defense Attache Office, Saigon) on campus. At the time, Fr. Emmanuel Charles McCarthy was a professor in the literature department; he had also founded and was the Director of The Program for the Study and Practice of Nonviolent Conflict Resolution. Ten of the students got expelled. Fr. McCarthy ended up resigning, to show solidarity with the students.
On the 50th anniversary in 2019, Fr. McCarthy and four of the former students reunited to tell the story of what happened that day, why it happened, and how it has affected their lives, as well as the ripple effects it has sent through the institution of the University of Notre Dame.
0:00 Fr. McCarthy provides an overview of the event
3:50 Mark Mahoney, John Eckenrode, Chris Cotter, and Carl Estabrook (faculty member at the time) introduce themselves
4:55 Mark Mahoney on what it was all about
7:35 John Eckenrode tells his story and explains the 15-minute rule
12:08 Did the school set them up?
17:00 A retired DOW President gives Notre Dame $10 million
19:32 School would not even allow DOA and students to talk off campus
21:50 Suspensions and scapegoats
23:40 Fr. Hesburgh's treatment of the episode in his book
25:17 John Eckenrode explains the choices the students had and the way the legal case(s) unfolded
29:25 How Fr. McCarthy was "deceived" and how Fr. Hesburgh's book was "misleading" and sometimes "wrong"
37:07 Consequences in the university
44:38 Notre Dame's growth and endowment targets go from $35 million to $1 billion
48:38 John Eckinrode notes you will not find any plaques or memorials to the authors who exposed CIA or the conscientious objectors from Notre Dame
54:30 The "false witness" of Notre Dame
1:04:45 Question from a reporter: "How did this affect your life and what did you learn?"
1:24:00 Question from a reporter: "Would you recommend civil disobedience as a course of action to protest any topics today?"
Episode 1: Author Interview with Rev. Emmanuel McCarthy
https://youtu.be/M8LTAoheRpg?si=5Lqw1ZiJle95ppvL
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https://www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.org
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