EP243 Email Security in the AI Age: An Epic 2025 Arms Race Begins

Cloud Security Podcast by Google

Guest:

• Cy Khormaee, CEO, AegisAI
• Ryan Luo, CTO, AegisAI

Topics:

• What is the state of email security in 2025?
• Why start an email security company now?
• Is it true that there are new and accelerating AI threats to email?
• It sounds cliche, but do you really have to use good AI to fight bad AI?
• What did you learn from your time fighting abuse at scale at Google that is helping you now
• How do you see the future of email security and what role will AI play?

Resources:

• aegisai.ai
• EP40 2021: Phishing is Solved?
• EP41 Beyond Phishing: Email Security Isn't Solved
• EP28 Tales from the Trenches: Using AI for Gmail Security
• EP50 The Epic Battle: Machine Learning vs Millions of Malicious Documents