EPISODE 2: THE HUMAN OS - WHY WE CAN’T JUST CTRL + ALT + DELETE OUR COMPLIANCE PROBLEMS

Compromising Positions - A Cyber Security Podcast

This episode we've got a super interesting interview with Christian Hunt, the founder of Human Risk. He's a Behavioural Science expert and author of the book 'Humanizing Rules', which explores how we can use Behavioural Science to improve compliance and ethics.

In this interview, Christian shares his insights on how important it is to consider the humans behind compliance and cybersecurity.

He explains that it's not just about following documentation, but also about the people who are responsible for ensuring compliance within an organization.

Christian talks about how we can use Behavioural Science techniques to encourage buy-in for ethics and compliance, despite their negative reputation.

One of the key takeaways from the interview is the importance of designing things for how people actually behave, as opposed to how we'd like them to behave. Christian emphasizes that we need to enable people to make real decisions in the real world and give them more autonomy to help keep our organisations safe.

He also touches on the ethics of phishing simulations, measuring the success of training, and how people really feel about rules they don’t respect!

There was so much good stuff in this interview that we had to make this a two-parter, so follow the show wherever you get your podcasts so you don’t miss the second episode where Christian uses his HUMANS Framework to help us get the most out of stopping people click on potential phishing links!

Links to everything Christian discussed in this episode can be found in the show notes and if you liked the show, please do leave us a review and share far and wide! It really helps us spread the word and get high-quality guests, like Christian, on future episodes.

We hope you enjoyed this episode - Keep safe, Keep secure, and don’t forget to ask yourself, ‘Am I the compromising position here?’

Show Notes

Christian is the founder of Human Risk, a Behavioural Science (BeSci) led Consulting and Training Firm specialising in Ethics & Compliance and the author of a book, ‘Humanizing Rules’. He was formerly Managing Director, Head of Behavioural Science at UBS. Christian joined the Firm in Compliance & Operational Risk Control, leading the function globally for UBS Asset Management. Before joining UBS, he was COO of the UK Prudential Regulation Authority, a subsidiary of the Bank of England responsible for regulating financial services.

Links related to Christian Hunt:

His Book: https://www.human-risk.com/humanizing-rules-book

His Website: https://www.human-risk.com/

His Podcast: https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/