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“Nice-ish, smooth takeoff (with imperfect safeguards) probably kills most ‘classic humans’ in a few decades.” by Raemon

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I wrote my recent Accelerando post to mostly stand on it's own as a takeoff scenario. But, the reason it's on my mind is that, if I imagine being very optimistic about how a smooth AI takeoff goes, but where an early step wasn't "fully solve the unbounded alignment problem, and then end up with extremely robust safeguards[1]"...
...then my current guess is that Reasonably Nice Smooth Takeoff still results in all or at least most biological humans dying (or, "dying out", or at best, ambiguously-consensually-uploaded), like, 10-80 years later.
Slightly more specific about the assumptions I'm trying to inhabit here:
  1. It's politically intractable to get a global halt or globally controlled takeoff.
  2. Superintelligence is moderately likely to be somewhat nice.
  3. We'll get to run lots of experiments on near-human-AI that will be reasonably informative about how things will generalize to the somewhat-superhuman-level.
  4. We get to ramp up [...]
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Outline:
(03:50) There is no safe muddling through without perfect safeguards
(06:24) i. Factorio
(06:27) (or: Its really hard to not just take peoples stuff, when they move as slowly as plants)
(10:15) Fictional vs Real Evidence
(11:35) Decades. Or: thousands of years of subjective time, evolution, and civilizational change.
(12:23) This is the Dream Time
(14:33) Is the resulting posthuman population morally valuable?
(16:51) The Hanson Counterpoint: So youre against ever changing?
(19:04) Cant superintelligent AIs/uploads coordinate to avoid this?
(21:18) How Confident Am I?
The original text contained 4 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
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First published:
October 2nd, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/v4rsqTxHqXp5tTwZh/nice-ish-smooth-takeoff-with-imperfect-safeguards-probably
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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
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תוכן מסופק על ידי LessWrong. כל תוכן הפודקאסטים כולל פרקים, גרפיקה ותיאורי פודקאסטים מועלים ומסופקים ישירות על ידי LessWrong או שותף פלטפורמת הפודקאסט שלהם. אם אתה מאמין שמישהו משתמש ביצירה שלך המוגנת בזכויות יוצרים ללא רשותך, אתה יכול לעקוב אחר התהליך המתואר כאן https://he.player.fm/legal.
I wrote my recent Accelerando post to mostly stand on it's own as a takeoff scenario. But, the reason it's on my mind is that, if I imagine being very optimistic about how a smooth AI takeoff goes, but where an early step wasn't "fully solve the unbounded alignment problem, and then end up with extremely robust safeguards[1]"...
...then my current guess is that Reasonably Nice Smooth Takeoff still results in all or at least most biological humans dying (or, "dying out", or at best, ambiguously-consensually-uploaded), like, 10-80 years later.
Slightly more specific about the assumptions I'm trying to inhabit here:
  1. It's politically intractable to get a global halt or globally controlled takeoff.
  2. Superintelligence is moderately likely to be somewhat nice.
  3. We'll get to run lots of experiments on near-human-AI that will be reasonably informative about how things will generalize to the somewhat-superhuman-level.
  4. We get to ramp up [...]
---
Outline:
(03:50) There is no safe muddling through without perfect safeguards
(06:24) i. Factorio
(06:27) (or: Its really hard to not just take peoples stuff, when they move as slowly as plants)
(10:15) Fictional vs Real Evidence
(11:35) Decades. Or: thousands of years of subjective time, evolution, and civilizational change.
(12:23) This is the Dream Time
(14:33) Is the resulting posthuman population morally valuable?
(16:51) The Hanson Counterpoint: So youre against ever changing?
(19:04) Cant superintelligent AIs/uploads coordinate to avoid this?
(21:18) How Confident Am I?
The original text contained 4 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
---
First published:
October 2nd, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/v4rsqTxHqXp5tTwZh/nice-ish-smooth-takeoff-with-imperfect-safeguards-probably
---
Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
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