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"Queer Eye" and "No Taste Like Home" star Antoni Porowski joins Tinfoil Swans live at the Food & Wine Classic in Aspen for a heartfelt and humorous conversation about identity, vulnerability, and finding meaning through food. He opens up about his path from actor and caterer to TV host and storyteller, the emotional layers of cooking, navigating fame, and the gentle art of knowing when to leave the party. Along the way, he shares reflections on therapy, self-care, family dynamics — and what turning 40 taught him. Sponsor: Old Fitzgerald® Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey. Bardstown, KY. 50% Alc./Vol. Think Wisely. Drink Wisely. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…
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This week, Brian, Troy, and Alex break down how tech is quietly building its own media empire—slick, founder-led, and fully aligned with industry interests. From TBPN to Turpentine, it’s not journalism—it just looks like it. They also explore the “Chaos Economy” through Foxconn’s EV pivot and unpack why analogies beat logic in shaping how we process tech shifts. Plus, Pete Buttigieg’s appearance on Flagrant shows that even politics is adapting to the influencer era. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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This week we dig into the spread of hyperpunditry and why the Information Space rewards those who confidently switch lanes with abandon. Plus: AI’s bottoms-up adoption curve, Anonymous Banker on golf media’s strength and the crazy life of sea turtles. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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The tariff wars kicked off and confirmed that we are in a post-expertise era where your bona fides matter less than your confidence. Plus: celebrating GDPR’s impending demise. what to do with Vanity Fair, and Shopify’s AI manifesto. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 Media, narratives, markets with Nick Denton 1:17:51
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Gawker Media founder Nick Denton joins the show to discuss how narratives and memes run the world, and why it’s better to trade on them than run the old media playbook of the attention economy. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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We dig into the idea of taste—how it’s formed, how it signals identity, and where it fits in media and business today. We also unpack how taste once defined media gatekeepers, how it’s now being democratized (or commodified), and why developing taste is less about money and more about intentionality. We are then joined by sociologist and brand strategist Ana Andjelic to debate the merits of European taste vs American taste. Plus: Anonymous Banker has a cameo on how to get a “taste premium” in M&A. The Sociology of Business by Ana Andjelic PvA What We Learned About Taste in Miami Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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The media industry, like politics, has been stuck in a scarcity mindset—managing decline instead of building for the future. In this episode, we dig into The Abundance Agenda, the new book by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson, and explore what a pro-growth strategy could look like for media. Plus, TheSkimm exits to Ziff Davis, the rise of AI-driven advertising, and Anonymous Banker joins to explain why second-tier comedians might be the next big media arbitrage opportunity. Why Can't AI Make Its Own Discoveries? — With Yann LeCun Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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AI is giving rise to vibe coding while old conventions fall away. Thinking on your feet is now more important than rehearsed, polished presentation, which soon can be done with the push of a button. It’s time to find your inner Rick Rubin. Plus: How to build an enterprise brand. Show Notes: PvA Weekend Fan Mail Vibe Coding Creative AI Superpowers You're Not Using Yet A love letter to LA ---------------------------------------- Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's PvA Weekend newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Online education company Chegg is suing Google for AI Overviews and might become the first major company felled by AI. We go over the hitlist of others at risk of getting Chegged, including SEO-dependent publishers, SaaS companies and even the email newsletter industrial complex. Plus: Why Lenny Rachitsky has succeeded, the case against all-inclusive resorts and a debate on whether reading is dying or just in a format transition. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Troy’s at “advanced” tennis camp, so Brian and Alex discuss the shifting dynamics of the newsletter and video game markets. Newsletters are entering into bubble territory, while parts of the video game market are losing ground after a long run of robust growth. Plus: an urban redevelopment good product. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Media has never been neat, but it’s getting messier. This week, Brian and Troy explore how AI is reshaping the creative process, how different personality-driven brands thrive on particular platforms, and the developing messy aesthetic of modern media that’s spreading to earnings calls and product launches. Troy shares how OpenAI’s Projects feature changed his workflow, turning AI into a true research assistant. Anonymous Banker joins to break down AI’s irrational valuations and why X’s debt selling on par means Elon’s won. We also debate whether Substack will inevitably embrace advertising and how creators are navigating capital investments. Plus: a yacht rock documentary and Masa biography as dual good products. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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This week, we examine the great realignment as tech and government unite to assert US tech dominance over ideas of digital sovereignty. Meanwhile, BuzzFeed plans its own social platform, despite toothpaste rarely going back into the tube. Plus: assessing OpenAI’s grandiose Super Bowl ad. SOLSTICE - 5: Forgotten archives Garys Economics Merlin Bird ID Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 Does AI need an iPhone moment? 1:08:29
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This week, on the heels of OpenAI releasing Deep Research, we assess whether AI has caught on with regular people beyond kicking the tires on ChatGPT. Maybe the AI Super Bowl ads will make it more appealing. Plus: the memeification and financialization of everything, volatility as the norm, X shows signs of a financial turnaround and alarm clocks with apps and a subscription program. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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The nature of work and careers is undergoing profound changes that are often obscured by debates over return-to-work mandates. This week we consider the rise of decentralized work that’s networked and elevates autonomy over outdated command and control approaches developed in a different century. Plus: a celebration of Data Privacy Day and Deepseek’s cannonball into the Big Tech AI pool party. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Our tech overlords reported for duty to Washington while Troy perused the powder at Davos. This week, we go beyond first principles to consider the second-order impact of a politicized tech elite. Plus: The Washington Post gets a BHAG and CNN plots a post-TV future. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 The Gospel of Productivity 1:07:33
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Economic growth requires labor productivity. We all aspire, in our own ways, to be productive, if only because our productivity is directly tied to our rewards. Yet American labor productivity has stagnated since the first decade of the internet coming to business. AI is now held out as the latest savior to productivity. Modern productivity culture is an outgrowth of optimization obsession. We can measure more than ever, so we gravitate to squeezing out incremental gains and sometimes lose sight of the direction we want to go. We chase productivity growth hacks like the Pomodoro Method and lean on apps like Notion. The quest for productivity has become a secular religion. This week, we discuss why we are constantly searching for productivity, our own approaches to productivity, why AI isn’t the silver bullet, and why what we really need is better prioritization. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 Zuckerberg’s Capitulation, Rabbit Holes and the War on Attention 1:03:42
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This week, we discuss Mark Zuckerberg’s craven capitulation on content moderation, even if it was an inevitable decision; the upside of algorithmic rabbit holes vs the downside of the commodification of attention; and how creator culture is reshaping trust in media institutions. Plus: why the Ninja Creami and IVs are good products. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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This week, we discuss the outlook in 2025 for legacy media (not great), alternative media (much better), chat as a new media mode, X emerging as a critical power center, and culture wars morphing into class wars. The Information Space in 2025 newsletter Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Podcasting challenges late nite, lying in media, shopping as content, super consumers and Alex rediscovers America at Disney. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 The New American Power Center 1:08:27
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Tech has swallowed media, and is increasingly swallowing other industries and accruing power along the way. Plus: why adding a chatbot won’t save the article page, the real message of the big ad holding company merger, and an introduction to the new PvA companion product. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Prediction market + news; media’s bifurcating star system; media’s management-labor divide; AI + browsers; car talk; LinkedIn cringe Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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This week: The internet comes to life as spectacle, Elon proclaims you are the media, why publishers need to get to the transactional level, and an assessment of a new MAGA cultural aesthetic. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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This week on People vs. Algorithms, we unpacked London’s charm, the shifting dynamics of media and search, and why Google’s dominance feels both indispensable and fragile. Troy and I contrasted American and British publishing cultures—bigger isn’t always better, as UK publishers adapt to constraints with scrappy innovation. Search’s transformation, fueled by AI and shifts in Google’s strategy, dominated our discussion. While it offers consumers better tools, publishers are left scrambling, questioning their survival amid frictionless AI-driven content. What are the best Patagonia ski pants on a budget? Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 The Art of Modern Persuasion & The Manosphere 1:00:18
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The election in many ways confirmed what many had suspected: the information space has superceded and subsumed the traditional media world. Traditional media is now just one node, and perhaps more alarmingly its influence – and ability to persuade – has drastically declined. We talk in this episode about the implications of this shift, particularly with the spotlight now on what’s being called the manosphere, a chaotic loose confederation of podcasters and YouTubers who have seemingly broken through to be a key node of persuasion for young men. Plus: Is CNN fixable? Rise of the Under Toad: The Tragic Life of Joe Rogan Dijon - Big Mike's (Live) Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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We run through the implications of the return of Donald Trump to the presidency after an election that saw the mainstream news media making way for new power brokers in unusual guises. The podcast election proved to be real – and a harbinger of changes to come as the Information Space subsumes the Fourth Estate. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Complex is a digital media survivor. It has lived many lives, including as a magazine, a dot-com, an ad network, Go90 (RIP) provider, YouTube showrunner, events organizer, hot sauce merchant, neglected BuzzFeed brand, and now in its latest iteration as a commerce engine. Complex President Moksha Fitzgibbons joins the show to discuss his return to Complex, where he was an integral part of the founding team going back to its Marc Ecko days, and how the youth culture brand is betting on combining its reach and engagement with the live shopping platform of NTWRK, which bought Complex for $108 million in February. Moksha discusses how the brand plans to focus increasingly on driving commerce and far less on selling advertising. Plus: Brian and Troy discuss the news industry’s current meltdown at the prospect of Donald Trump returning to the White House. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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There’s a new consensus about the media business that is emerging. The past is not coming back, that much is for certain. The challenges are well known, and the bright spots — and they exist — tend to be smaller and harder to scale. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Mass media’s extinction event has come first for text content. Text is increasingly being "pushed down the stack" and commoditized due to AI's ability to generate, manipulate, and reformat text content. This shift is forcing media companies that primarily deal in text to adapt or risk becoming obsolete. While text isn't disappearing entirely, its role is changing. It's becoming more of an input for other forms of media rather than the primary output. Meanwhile, other parts of media are gaining in influence. This will turn out to be the podcast election, as Kamala Harris prepares to make her closing case to… Joe Rogan while continuing to snub mass media like Time and the New York Times. We also discuss the power of Fortnite, which points to a future of media where content is a means to an ends. In the case of Fortnite, that ends is a combination of a place to hang out, a hub for commercial events like virtual concerts, a competitive environment premised on participation rather than inert consumption, and a communication medium. Plus: Bill Gates is apparently a good product. Cabel Sasser, Panic - XOXO Festival (2024) Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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This week, we take a look at making bets that go wrong, and how it’s often difficult to tell if a bet is a bad one in the short term. Was Meta’s bet on VR a bad bet? Maybe in the short term, but perhaps not in the long term. Media companies have made their fair share of bad bets over the years, although there weren’t many options available. Will the parade of AI deals join the pile of bad bets? Plus… Good Product with a VERY special guest Steve Katelman. Donald Trump says he’s ‘basically a truthful person’ Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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This week, we discuss a new framework for the media industry that separates content into two distinct categories: "above the line" and "below the line" media. The line in question represents the threshold of human uniqueness in content creation. Above it lies the territory where human creativity, insight, and expertise still reign supreme. Below it, we find the realm increasingly dominated by AI-driven processes and automation. Plus: Taylor Lorenz and the question of whether packaged media can retain talent; AI dwindling the value of curation; synthetic social networks; and praise for bullshitters. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Human Computer Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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The heart of organizations is tension, which when productive can lead to great outcomes. If it goes to extremes, disaster. This week, we discuss tension at OpenAI between its non-profit mission and massive ambitions, the tensions of hacking attention to sell products, the Trump tension between the truth and making a valid a point, and the tension between tech changing consumer expectations and media business models. Episode links: NotebookLM from Google. Seb Young's music project, Chronically Offline . Eating the pets video. Channel 5, Aurora Migrant Gang 'Takeover' Elsewhere: Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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We discuss the Department of Justice’s antitrust case against Google as a classic case of fighting the last war. And even if Google’s monopoly is dismantled, history shows to be careful of what you wish for because what comes next could be worse. Plus: Airmail’s weird business, the struggles at Food52 and why chicken parm is a great American product. Watch us on YouTube Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 100th Episode with Emily Sundberg 1:13:44
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This week we’re joined by Emily Sundberg and celebrate our 100th episode, talking about classic topics like X vs Threads and is Silence the best product. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Founders can force change that managers (call them operators) can’t, at least as efficiently. Plus: AI land grab update, Gannett’s commerce play goes away, and the Sicilian tonnara and summer books. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 The Recalibration to Normal 1:03:16
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This is shaping up to be a TikTok election where relatability is at a premium. The successful rollout of the Harris-Walz ticket is moving authenticity from loudly telling the truths others dare not to something softer and more familiar. Plus: the recalibration of remote work, AI backlash and the difficulty of deciding level of spending on content as the weight of many publisher models shifts to indirect monetization paths. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 04:18 Political Campaign Strategies 13:00 Generational Shifts and Voting Patterns 19:20 The Future of Media and Technology 31:07 Prediction Markets and Media 35:46 Media Products and Betting Data 38:16 The Future of Remote Work 40:33 AI and Its Ethical Implications 42:42 Peter Thiel on Joe Rogan's Podcast 45:19 The Role of VCs in Politics 49:20 Good Product…
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1 The Olympics and the Future of TV 43:23
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This week, we discuss conversations vs interviews, why social networking has been replaced by algorithmic content, YouTube’s pivotal role in the emerging media space, and why the Olympics were a great media product. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:59 Introduction 04:22 Diving into the Elon Musk and Donald Trump Conversation 11:59 Bias in Media and Algorithms 19:33 Mr. Beast Controversy 23:35 YouTube's Role in Content Regulation 25:38 The Evolution of Social Networks 31:06 The Future of Media and Streaming 38:17 Good Product…
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A federal judge has ruled Google a monopoly for locking up distribution with Apple. We discuss the percent and likely impact. Also, memes as the media format of the moment, as they become how big events like the Olympics and presidential election become participatory. Meanwhile, YouTube is becoming modern TV. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 01:13 Google Declared a Monopoly 02:08 Historical Parallels with Microsoft 05:00 Apple's Role and Strategic Decisions 06:47 Google's Financial Strategies 10:55 The Evolution of Paid Search 19:39 The Role of Memes in Modern Media 30:09 Authenticity and Political Tactics 33:15 Twitter's Advertising Struggles 41:11 Media Landscape and Axios Layoffs 48:16 AI in Media and SearchGPT Review 56:10 YouTube's Dominance and Content Trends…
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OpenAI is readying a new search engine, Meta is pushing further into search with Llama, Perplexity is cutting deals with publishers. This week, we look to what the future of search looks like. Plus: why Nike ended up in Wall Street’s doghouse, why Tucker Carlson is a podcast star, and why Pulp Fiction still works. Nike: An Epic Saga of Value Destruction Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 01:07 Discussing the Future of Search 04:05 Challenges and Opportunities in Search 09:03 Vertical Search and AI Overviews 11:16 Google's Exclusive Deals and Market Shifts 19:04 The Future of News and Subscription Models 24:05 The Rise of Media Personalities 28:18 Media Brands vs. Individual Personalities 30:04 Challenges for Legacy Media Brands 38:04 Nike's Digital Marketing Dilemma 44:48 Good Product…
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1 The Dark Side of Performance 1:11:59
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This week, we’re joined by Joe Marchese, operating and build partner at Human Ventures and veteran media exec. We discuss why the obsession with performance marketing has created incentives for many intermediaries to focus on giving the appearance of being responsible for a sale rather than actually contributing to the sale, and how that’s led to short-term approaches that skips the basics of building lasting brands. Plus: What the meting of Kamala Harris says about the direction of news and political campaigns, why Netflix points to a shrinking TV ad market and the perils of operating content and commerce businesses as part of one company. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:00 Introduction 06:09 Netflix vs. Apple TV: The Future of Streaming 16:51 The Meme Election 24:42 The Role of AI in Media and Advertising 35:59 The Evolution of Content Creation Tools 38:07 The Cookiepocalypse and Ad Tech Cynicism 40:31 Performance Media and Brand Building 44:37 Content and Commerce: The Houdinki Case Study 51:32 The Future of Digital Media and Monetization 58:56 Media Investments and Optimism 01:01:00 Good Product…
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The assassination attempt on Donald Trump was a stress test for the Information Space, and a reminder of just how much the media has changed. You had mainstream news outlets jockeying with individuals holding forth with a collection of expertise, conspiracies, jokes, memes and partisan potshots. Some of it was informative, some of it was hilarious, some of it was infuriating, and much of it was… entertaining? We unpack yet another crazy plot twist and look forward to what it means as the media business girds for what looks very likely to be a return to power of Donald Trump and an ascendent political movement that’s to a large degree successfully vanquished the packaged news media. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:00 Introduction 02:50 Personal Media Consumption Experiences 04:13 The Evolution of Media and Information 08:08 Trump's Influence on Media and Politics 15:13 The Future of Media in a Polarized World 26:23 Trump's Media Mastery and Political Impact 38:34 Tech's Political Landscape 42:44 Big Tech vs. Small Tech 44:26 The Role of Media in Politics 49:55 The Rise of YouTube as a Podcast Platform 53:58 The Evolution of Digital Advertising 01:03:51 Good Product…
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1 Rules of The Information Space 1:00:02
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The tidal wave of crap is a reality in the Information Space. This week, we discuss the rules of winning in the Information Space, including why it helps to get into fights, present as authoritative and authentic, and above all else to be willing to be shameless. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:00 Introduction 03:00 Threads and Social Media Dynamics 06:16 The Rise of Authenticity 11:17 Traditional Media's Role 16:19 AI and Productivity 32:41 The Role of Hyperbole and Conspiracy Theories 34:20 The New Rules of the Information Space 42:53 The Importance of Podcasts in Modern Media 52:56 Good Product…
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In this July 4th episode, Alex, Brian and Troy chat about whether life will ever get back to 'normal,' Threads vs. X, gamer saints and AI dogs. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:00 Holiday Podcast Kickoff 00:59 Media Industry: Past, Present, and Future 02:55 The Canonized Gamer Boy 04:20 The Rise of Viral Fame 05:54 Threads vs. X: The Social Media Debate 07:41 The Future of Social Media 09:08 AI and Surveillance in Everyday Life 19:56 The Changing Landscape of War 22:16 FigmaCon and the Future of Design 24:42 Music Industry's Battle with AI 27:12 The Future of Publishing and Media 34:15 The Role of Legacy Media 38:05 Embracing Change in Media 40:31 Summertime Recommendations…
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Troy and Brian discuss the realist mood in Cannes, the key to good brand events, why hotels need a good playlist and Perplexity serving as an AI boogeyman. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:00 Introduction 04:17 Media Memberships and Loyalty 06:48 Hospitality and Technology 12:22 Events and Differentiation 14:55 Cannes Observations and Reflections 18:01 Media Industry Dynamics 27:15 Exploring with AI in Paris and London 32:30 The Rise of Perplexity and Content Theft 36:33 Publishers vs. AI Crawlers 41:27 The Future of Media and Distribution 46:24 Good Product…
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Apple has entered the AI fray with a compelling view of using it to remove friction that gets in the way of people want to get things done. The issue arises for those who create that friction by serving as intermediaries. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:39 Introduction to People vs. Algorithms 04:23 Apple's WWDC Highlights 10:29 Privacy and Trust in Tech 27:30 Microsoft's Rewind Feature Controversy 33:33 The Enduring Relevance of the Phone 38:45 Advertising Trends and Challenges 48:11 The War on the Inbox 53:57 Sleep and Technology…
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Technology acts as a compressor. AI is the latest pressure point. This week, we look at compression in software development, marketing and publishing. We then go into the difficult challenge of change management at the Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:53 Mailbag 02:41 The Decline of Blockbuster and Rise of Netflix 05:14 The Future of Software and AI's Impact 10:29 AI in Marketing and Customer Support 28:26 Navigating Change in Media Organizations 32:05 Digital Transformation in Media 35:34 The Decline of Traditional Newspapers 38:09 Strategies for Media Reinvention 47:36 The Role of Unions in Media 49:57 Good Product 56:52 Closing Remarks…
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In this episode Brian, Troy, and Alex talk about AI hallucinations, and how they mirror human misperceptions. Troy believes the open web and traditional media will still hold value, while Alex thinks AI and platforms like Google and social media will take over. They also touch on the future of ad-supported AI services and SEO, Vivek Ramaswamy’s anti-BuzzFeed campaign and a genius idea about electing presidents. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:00 Spicy Takes 00:54 AI Hallucinations: The Human Aspect 01:49 The Future of AI and Media 02:44 Debate: Is the Web Dead? 04:45 The Role of Media Brands in the AI Era 12:17 Advertising and AI: A New Economy 14:29 The Impact of AI on Content Discovery 20:30 Legal and Ethical Considerations 22:57 The Future of Media and AI Integration 27:46 Union Pressures and Performance Reviews 30:02 The Future of Media and Open Web 34:46 Buzzfeed and Media Outsiders 41:26 The Role of AI in Leadership 44:46 Good Product 49:29 Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks…
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What do tech and media look like in five years? Plus: Sam Altman as slippery character and AI comes to search and devices. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:00 Introduction 01:28 Sam Altman and Scarlett Johansson Controversy 06:43 Microsoft's AI Integration in Hardware 13:39 Google AI and the Future of Search 20:32 Speculations on AI's Long-Term Effects 33:21 Five Years into the Future: A Thought Exercise 40:39 AI Redefines Hardware 44:50 Advertising in the AI Era 50:05 Media Consumption Trends 57:36 Good Product 01:03:53 Podcast Reflections…
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Brian, Alex, and Troy get into the new AI updates from OpenAI and Google. They unpack how these big changes might shake up industries like media and advertising, and what that means for our daily tech interactions. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:00 Catching Up and Studio Updates 00:46 Introduction to People vs. Algorithms 00:59 The AI Revolution: Predictions and Impacts 03:00 Reflecting on Last Week's Episode and Media Sustainability 09:16 Exploring the New Era of AI and Its Implications 11:15 The Potential and Challenges of Advanced AI Interfaces 19:14 The Future of Education, Work, and Technology 25:05 Universal Basic Compute and Societal Impacts 28:27 The Social Media Backlash and GPT-4's Impact 30:19 Reflecting on Past Tech Hype: From TCP/IP to the iPhone 32:34 The Future of Computing and the Internet 38:19 Navigating the Shift: Strategies for Media and Tech Companies 43:32 The Role of AI and Social Media in the Future 46:56 Creative Missteps: The Controversial Apple Ad 50:41 The Evolution of Streaming and Live Content 54:34 Good Product…
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1 Transforming Time with Jess Sibley 1:05:12
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Jess Sibley, CEO of Time, joins Brian and Troy to discuss adapting Time to today’s digital challenges. Jess shares her strategies for navigating algorithm changes and AI, shifting Time’s focus from consumer to business-oriented models, and the implications for digital content and monetization. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:00 Guest Introduction 01:13 Navigating the Chaos in Search and AI's Impact on Publishing 01:27 Modernizing Legacy Brands and the Shift from B2C to B2B 02:42 The Evolution of Media and Google's Algorithm Changes 05:49 Exploring Revenue Diversification and the Future of Publishing 12:33 The Impact of AI and Search on Media Strategies 21:54 Time's Transformation and Strategic Partnerships 27:54 The Role of Time Magazine in a Digital Age 32:19 Time Studios and Future Media Projects 35:15 The Benioffs' Leadership at Time 41:54 Exclusive Insights: High-Profile Interviews and Media Impact 49:07 Navigating the Media Landscape: Strategy and Culture at Time 54:12 Addressing Brand Safety in Journalism 01:00:18 The Future of Time: Trust, Impact, and Audience Engagement 01:02:42 Good Product: The Significance of AirPods and Music…
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1 Can the “Fediverse” Save Us? 1:09:10
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Brian, Troy, and Alex discuss the commercialization of the internet and the impact of AI on media. They explore big media-tech partnerships, the evolving role of AI in content distribution, and the potential benefits and challenges AI brings to our digital lives. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Topics: 00:00 Opening Banter and Personal Updates 02:46 AI Negotiations and Media Deals: A Deep Dive 09:14 The Future of Media and Content Creation 19:29 Navigating the World of AI Products and Market Trends 26:34 Reflections on AI Device Launches and Market Impact 35:53 Google's AI Ambitions and the Pixel Phone 37:57 AI's Role in Customer Service and Its Ethical Implications 40:31 AI's Influence on Advertising and Branding 43:17 The Fediverse: A New Approach to Social Media and Content Distribution 58:49 Navigating the Overload of Email Newsletters 01:03:49 Good Product Recommendations and Cultural Commentary…
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1 Omnicom's Jonathan Nelson on Agencies & AI 1:14:25
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Omnicom digital chief Jonathan Nelson joins the show to discuss why ad agencies, forever under threat, will adapt to AI. We go into Omnicom's purchase of Flywheel Digital, a software company for digital commerce -- a further sign that the next phase of what we used to call the internet will be defined by commerce rather than advertising. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Topics: 00:00 Opening Banter and Warm-Up 00:31 Introduction to 'People vs. Algorithms' Podcast 01:33 The Future of Magazines and Ad Agencies in the AI Era 03:57 Navigating the Digital and Media Landscape: Insights and Anecdotes 22:04 Navigating Media, Identity, and the Outlaw Mentality 36:54 The Dawn of Digital Agencies and Banner Ads 39:21 Evolution of Advertising: From Novelty to Foundation 43:52 The Future of Advertising: AI, Ethics, and Consumer Impact 50:52 Navigating the Media Landscape: Relationships and Technology 55:15 The Role of Websites and Consumer Behavior Online 57:36 Reflections on Advertising, Technology, and Career Advice 01:09:04 Concluding Thoughts on AI, Ethics, and the Future of Advertising…
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In this episode Alex, Brian and Troy dive into topics like how AI is changing advertising, the ways tech meets human needs, and the big shifts society might see because of tech. They chat about everything from AI taking over creative jobs to why we still need a human touch in things like art. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Topics: 00:00 Exploring Polycules and Regional Acceptance 00:59 Welcome to People vs. Algorithms: Unpacking Media and Tech 01:09 Insights from the Possible Conference: Marketing and AI's Future 04:44 The Impact of AI on Advertising and Creativity 06:59 AI's Role in Advertising: A Deep Dive 14:20 The Future of Advertising Agencies in the AI Era 17:27 The Quirks of Product Marketing and Consumerism 19:22 The Humane Product Launch: A Case Study in Failure 25:28 Exploring the Limits of AI in Personal and Professional Services 30:46 The Debate Over AI in Our Lives: Convenience vs. Human Connection 33:20 The Dystopian and Utopian Views of AI's Future 41:22 The Socio-Economic Implications of AI and Technology 47:46 Navigating the Digital Age: Truth, Trust, and Technology 54:57 Yahoo's Evolution and the Future of Digital Platforms 01:00:12 Closing Thoughts and Listener Feedback…
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In this episode Brian, Troy, and Alex dive into AI mishaps in Teslas, muse over BuzzFeed's AI pivot, and ponder the future of creativity in tech. They chat about navigating power in the digital age, laugh at media's latest shenanigans, and champion the underdog entrepreneurs shaking things up. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Topics: 00:00 Tesla's Autopilot Update 01:02 Introducing People Vs. Algorithms 05:32 BuzzFeed's AI Pivot and the Future of Media 22:19 AI's Impact on Creativity and the Music Industry 26:30 The New York Times Embraces AI for Audio Articles 33:09 Diving into the Concept of Power 36:11 The Journey to Gaining Power: Personal Stories and Advice 43:10 Understanding Power in the Context of Career and Entrepreneurship 49:31 AI's Influence on Power Dynamics and Organizational Structures 54:24 Reflecting on Media, AI, and the Future of Content Creation 59:47 Good Product Recommendations…
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1 Shifting Tides in the Media Business with Axios’s Sara Fischer 59:32
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With Alex still on vacation, Axios senior media reporter Sara Fischer joins Troy and Brian to break down the current state of the media business, including why TikTok is winning, the death of aggregation as a competitive advantage, why social media is a major reason women’s sports is one of the hottest segments, The New York Times as an extensible model and the future of print magazines as marketing pieces. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Topics: 00:00 Brooklyn, Miami or Washington? 01:10 Introducing 'People vs. Algorithms': A Deep Dive into Media Trends 02:37 The Power of Distinctive Journalism in Today's Media 05:39 The Evolution of News Consumption and the Rise of TikTok 07:41 The Future of Media: Between Eras and the AI Influence 10:00 The Art of Distinctive Reporting in the Digital Age 12:51 Exploring the Success of The New York Times and Other Media Giants 21:22 The Rise of Women's Sports and the Impact of Social Media 25:52 The Ongoing Battles in the Media Industry 34:04 The Shift in Media Brand Strategies 36:20 The Evolution of Legacy Media and New Upstarts 39:25 Navigating the Complexities of Media Business Models 52:35 Exploring the Future of Reddit and Other Platforms 56:17 Beyonce's New Album: A Cultural Phenomenon…
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1 The Business of Influence with Emily Sundberg 1:11:45
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Emily, Brian and Troy delve into the complex world of influencers and celebrities as they navigate public scrutiny and fame in the digital age. They explore the societal impact of extensive phone use and the rise of influencers creating their own brands. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Topics: 00:00 An Unforgettable Trip to the Grenadines: The Start of an Influencer's Journey 01:12 Introducing 'People vs. Algorithms': A Deep Dive into Media, Tech, and Culture 01:17 Emily Sundberg's Unique Blend of Business and Culture in 'Feed Me' 02:31 Exploring the Complex World of Influence and Celebrity 08:11 The Intricacies of Being an Influencer and the Impact on Personal Identity 16:01 The Huberman Controversy: A Case Study in Celebrity and Accountability 30:52 The Future of Celebrity: Microdramas and the New Age of Public Scrutiny 38:19 The Unpreparedness of Rising Influencers 41:57 The Personal Touch in Building a Brand 47:06 Exploring the Future of Work and Influence 53:27 Navigating the Complexities of a Digital Career 01:03:13 The Impact of Technology on Society and Personal Life 01:06:48 The Good Product Corner…
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1 Algorithmic Sameness with Kyle Chayka 1:11:37
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In this episode of 'People vs. Algorithms,' hosts Brian Morrissey, Troy Young, and Alex Schleifer engage in a wide-ranging discussion on how algorithms shape our cultural landscape, the future of AI in content creation, and the consequences of a digitally dominated world. They share insights from the Game Developer Conference about the optimism among independent studios and discuss the ramifications of algorithmic sameness across media. The episode features a detailed conversation with Kyle Chayka, a writer at the New Yorker and author of 'Filterworld,' centering on how algorithms are flattening culture and what it means for creators and consumers alike. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Topics: 00:00 Kicking Off at the Game Developer Conference 06:42 The Future of AI in Gaming: Opportunities and Challenges 08:40 Navigating the Complexities of AI Ethics and Open Source Debates 19:49 The Middle Management Dilemma: Efficiency vs. Human Touch 27:33 Listener Questions: The Future of Learning and AI's Role 34:01 The Digital Dilemma: Navigating Education and Work in a Tech-Driven World 34:48 Rethinking Education: A Vision for the Future 35:08 Introducing Kyle: A Deep Dive into Algorithms and Culture 35:48 The Impact of Algorithms on Culture and Individuality 38:41 Exploring the Future: The Role of Algorithms in Shaping Our World 43:02 The Algorithmic Influence: From Consumption to Creation 47:29 Navigating the Algorithmic Landscape: Personal Experiences and Strategies 51:36 The Future of Culture in the Age of Algorithms 55:59 The Personal and Professional Impact of Living Online 59:01 Envisioning a Future Beyond Algorithmic Feeds 01:06:28 Exploring Good Products…
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As Alex says, the ground is shifting more and faster than it has in some time in the tech world, which usually means gaping craters are opened to swallow up media companies. We discuss the Reddit IPO, X apparently pivoting to video – we recorded this prior to Don Lemmon announcing he wouldn’t be launching his show on X after an apparently disastrous interview with Elon Musk pissed off Musk, go figure – and the effort to ban TikTok. We also have a guest this week. Tony Stubblebine joined us to discuss where Medium fits in the information space. We talked to Tony about how Medium aims to be the place for expert content, why journalism is apparently expensive to produce because journalists have to learn about the stuff they cover, and the frequent misalignment of incentives in the media business, particularly ones reliant on advertising. Submit a question or comment for the show here: https://memo.fm/pva/ Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Topics: 00:00 Introducing the Voicemail Feature: A New Way to Engage 01:44 Welcome to People vs. Algorithms: Unpacking Media and Tech Shifts 02:06 Deep Dive into Reddit's IPO and the Future of Social Platforms 02:44 Exploring Medium's Journey and Its Place in the Digital World 04:29 Listener Engagement and the Future of Podcasting 05:18 Analyzing Reddit's Strategy and Its Impact on the Digital Landscape 16:17 X Pivoting to Video 19:46 The Controversial Debate: The Potential TikTok Ban 25:20 Apple's Strategy and the Shifting Tech Landscape 32:21 Medium's New Direction Under CEO Tony Stubblebine 40:44 Evaluating Medium's Pivot to Subscription and Target Author Strategy 41:26 The Power of Expert Content in the Digital Age 43:03 The Debate Over Text vs. Video Content 44:05 The Importance of Writing in an Evolving Internet 44:55 Addressing Changing Consumer Habits and Content Consumption 48:56 The Future of Twitter and Social Media Platforms 50:36 Exploring Federation and Content Distribution Strategies 51:37 Navigating Negotiations with AI Companies 55:17 The Potential and Challenges of Reddit's IPO 58:13 The Role of Medium in Independent Expert Content Creation 59:39 Reflecting on the State of Professional Media 01:08:33 Closing Thoughts and Future Directions 01:11:12 The Impact of Advertising on Business and Culture…
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This week, we discuss how to turn the ship at two very different companies facing different challenges: CNN and Google. At CNN, former New York Times CEO Mark Thompson is looking to reinvent the still very profitable broadcaster into a more nimble, digitally focused operation as its viewership and cultural importance fade. Google is facing its biggest threat yet in the form of AI and signs with Gemini AI image search that there might just be something to those complaints about a “woke culture.” Plus: nostalgia for websites, invisible paywalls and Substack’s next chapter. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Topics: 00:00 Opening Banter and Homework Check 00:05 Diving Into Mark Thompson's Memo and Corporate Speak 01:20 Introducing People vs. Algorithms 01:49 The Challenges at CNN and Google 02:29 CNN's Transformation and Strategy Discussion 07:13 Exploring the Impact of AI and Invisible Paywalls 11:38 The Future of Publishing and Websites 17:08 Debating the Role of Websites in Media Today 27:52 Substack's Strategy and the Future of Content Creation 33:32 Reimagining CNN's Strategy in the AI Era 45:27 Exploring Perplexity's Innovations and Potential 46:57 The Future of News: AI and Media Evolution 47:14 Navigating the Challenges of Legacy Media in the Digital Age 49:01 The Blurred Lines of Modern Media Brands 57:17 The Dilemma of Independence in the Media Landscape 58:57 Google's Leadership and Innovation Challenges 01:00:14 The Cultural and Structural Issues at Google 01:14:53 Redefining Product Management in Tech 01:17:04 The Essence of Good Content: Vice and Beyond 01:22:18 Closing Thoughts and Future Engagements…
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This week, we're joined by Puck fashion correspondent Lauren Sherman, who gives her view on how to build a career in journalism during what's billed as an "extinction event." Hint: persistence plays a big part. Plus: Troy gets nostalgic about Vice. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Topics: 00:00 Introduction and Personal Anecdotes 01:06 Welcome to People vs. Algorithms 01:36 Guest Introduction: Lauren Sherman 01:49 Discussion on Media Industry Changes 03:41 Reflections on Podcasting 16:30 Guest Arrival: Lauren Sherman 18:01 Discussion on Fashion Industry 30:48 Surviving in the Journalism Industry 33:35 The Drive and Luck Behind Success 34:16 The Journey to Becoming a Staff Writer 34:37 The Role of Persistence in Journalism 35:00 The Intersection of Business and Fashion 35:33 Navigating High-Risk Career Paths 35:52 The Decision Against Starting a Business 36:35 The Importance of Being Part of Something Bigger 37:01 The Value of Having an Editor 37:27 The Challenges of Managing Your Own Business 37:46 The Dilemma of Moving into Management 38:18 The Pitfalls of Pushing Passionate People into Management 38:34 The Appeal of Working at Puck 39:41 The Struggles of Being a Manager 40:23 The Importance of Staying Close to the Product 41:25 The Reality of Working in the Media Industry 53:02 The Impact of Puck on Access and Influence 54:50 Advice for Aspiring Journalists…
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1 DDM's Neil Vogel on Navigating Change 1:13:01
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Dotdash Meredith CEO Neil Vogel joins the show to discuss how a publisher reliant on search traffic is back in growth mode, the future of the affiliate business, the impact of generative AI on traffic-dependent publishing businesses, why performance comes before premium in advertising strategies and that time Prince played the Webby Awards. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Topics: 00:00 Introduction and Subscription Banter 01:24 Introduction to the Show and Hosts 01:38 Discussion on Media Industry and Technology 02:10 Introduction to Dotdash Meredith and its CEO 02:59 Discussion on Media Business and Advertising 04:22 Feedback and Contact Information 04:47 Discussion on Upcoming Guest and Industry Challenges 05:31 Discussion on AI and Technology News 09:07 Introduction of Guest Neil Vogel 09:31 Discussion on Media Business and Future Predictions 11:33 Discussion on AI and Content Generation 13:22 Discussion on Brand Advertising and Content Budget Allocation 39:42 Content Strategy Across Different Verticals 40:32 The Importance of Local Decision Making 41:11 The Role of Innovation in Media Industry 41:32 Exploring the Potential of Technology in Media 44:21 The Power of AI in Content Creation 44:35 The Future of Recipe Content 45:14 The Impact of Personalities in Branding 45:45 Reflections on the Print Business 48:56 The Challenges and Opportunities in Media Industry 49:34 The Role of Brands in the Digital Age 52:19 The Importance of Innovation and Taking Risks 54:06 The Future of Media in the Age of AI 54:48 The Power of Optimism in Leadership 57:46 The Impact of Celebrity Appearances in Events 01:04:29 The Influence of Google on Publishers 01:09:05 The Future of Content Creation with AI 01:11:31 Closing Remarks and Future Predictions…
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The arrival of AI means the paradigm of searching for information and entertainment will give way to instant delivery. This week, we discuss the implications for the media ecosystem. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topic: 00:00 Introduction and Casual Conversation 00:08 The Power of Virtual Reality in Work 00:26 The Exhaustion of Video Calls 01:12 Introduction to the Show 01:57 Discussion on the Evolution of the Internet 02:50 The Rise of Tech Empires 03:07 Surviving in the Age of Tech Empires 03:57 Super Bowl Discussion 06:38 The Impact of the NFL 09:35 The Power of Super Bowl Commercials 10:56 The Rise of Temu 14:53 "Spulu": A New Sports Streaming Service 22:59 The Struggles of Microsoft's Gaming Division 27:48 The Art of Negotiation and Independent Game Development 28:18 The Struggles and Successes of Entrepreneurship 28:57 Venture Capital and the Challenges of Scaling a Business 30:09 The Impact of Social Media Platforms on Engagement 33:00 The Future of the Internet and Content Creation 38:19 The Role of AI in Shaping the Internet Economy 42:22 The Importance of Unique Content and Branding in the AI Era 44:58 The Challenges and Opportunities of Content Creation in the AI World 47:51 The Future of Media and the Internet Economy 50:06 Final Thoughts on the Future of the Internet…
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1 Blending Realities with Rafat Ali 1:11:55
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In this episode Alex, Brian, and Troy, with guest Rafat Ali, discuss the future of technology, focusing on the Apple Vision Pro's impact on work, personal life, and media consumption. They explore its potential to revolutionize how we interact with digital content and the broader implications for traditional media and AI in content creation. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter Skip to topics: 00:00 Introduction to the Virtual World 00:16 Exploring the Avatar's Appearance 00:33 Discussing the Potential of Virtual Reality 00:54 Debating the Implications of Body Mapping 01:04 The Impact of Technology on Human Behavior 01:49 Embracing the New Virtual Reality 02:12 The Practicality of the Virtual World 03:19 The Future of Virtual Reality 03:46 Overcoming Buyer's Remorse 04:00 The Virtual Workspace 07:39 Addressing the Dork Factor 20:55 The Future of Mainstream Media 23:11 The Role of Media in Today's World 34:08 The Future of B2B Media 39:16 The Impact of AI on Web Traffic and Journalism 40:24 The Limitations of AI in Complex Analysis 41:07 Exploring the Role of AI Chatbots in Business 43:22 The Future of Web Browsing and Information Retrieval 47:32 The Role of Tech Giants in Shaping the Internet's Future 48:40 The Challenges and Opportunities in Modern Journalism 51:11 The Evolution of Media Consumption 53:45 The Future of Media: Predictions and Speculations 55:53 The Role of Media in Shaping Public Perception 58:08 The Impact of Technology on Media Consumption 01:00:32 The Future of Journalism in the Digital Age 01:02:27 The Role of Media in Shaping the Future 01:05:31 The Challenges and Opportunities in the Media Industry 01:07:18 The Future of Media: A Look Ahead 01:08:46 Conclusion: The State of Media Today…
With an era of digital media ending in chaos, we look ahead to the challenges media companies face in fixing a product that in most instances is far behind the times. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Layoffs at The Los Angeles Times, the end of the road for Pitchfork, and an uncertain future for Sports Illustrated illustrate how digital media is architected to collapse the middle of the media business, leaving a precious few scaled players and many scrappy outfits. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 CES, Ackman’s War, News App Fails 1:06:40
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This week we talk CES, the ongoing silliness of the Bill Ackman-Business Insider feud, and why news aggregation apps are the obvious solution in search of a (monetizable) problem. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 Hit Pieces, Fairness, Drugs & VR 57:56
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This week, we dig into the latest front into the so-called hit piece. Last week, Business Insider published a pair of stories that dug into the academic record of Neri Oxman, a former MIT professor. Oxman happens to be the wife of Bill Ackman, a powerful activist investor who has been on a campaign against the leaders of top universities, including Harvard's Claudine Gay, who resigned a week ago after plagiarism accusations. The Wall Street Journal meanwhile continued its scrutiny of Elon Musk with a piece that looked into his drug use and whether it has negatively impacted his stewardship of his companies and the requirements of federal law since Starlink is a government contractor. The pieces raise the question of what a fair target for accountability journalism, and whether drug use is the issue or behavior exhibited during drug use (or without drugs of any kind, outside the intoxicant of ego). Finally, we consider the Apple Vision Pro and the prospect of people on planes with it strapped to their faces. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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The New Year is maybe the perfect holiday. It’s celebrated by just about every culture and creed. And in a time of great division, we sorta come together around the idea of a new year meaning a new start. And we probably need that. This week, we look at reasons for hope, what lies ahead for AI, the coming legal and regulatory battles with Big Tech, and why it's probably safer to be an electrician. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 The New SERP, the New Syndication 58:26
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Troy and Brian go over some of the lessons of 2023 and look ahead to 2024, starting with the end of the long era of dominance of the search engine results page and the dawn of a new SERP and promise of a new syndication paradigm that's reminiscent of the portal era. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 Minisode: Troy and Alex discuss AI 14:16
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Troy and Alex kept the conversation going after the recording of last episode. After sharing a "transcendental" experience with Chat GPT, Alex explained why he doesn't want a Cybertruck and Troy is compelled to play GTA 6. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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In news, we discuss Google's antitrust loss, the miracle of Cheddar selling for $200 million, 5-Hour Energy Guy cleaning house at SI and zombie cable TV. Next, it's onto 2024 storylines, including AI's coming specialization, and platforms and publishers breaking up. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 Conspirituality, Celebrity, E-Acc vs Decels, GTA 1:12:27
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We live in an age of cults, narratives and fleeting fame. Centralization is giving way to a fragmented culture and media landscape that is open, chaotic and not for the faint of heart. This week, we explore the fault lines of the Information Space. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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The website might be dying. How will this affect media and advertising? We cover this and other hot topics in today’s episode. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter
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1 OpenAI and the Culture of Silicon Valley 44:08
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The OpenAI drama exposed fault lines in the very unique culture of Silicon Valley, highlighting the imperfect methods used to serve as a check on the growing power of the tech industry. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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AI agents will accelerate the interface shift and change the economics of software, media and beyond. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter
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The power of brands has eroded, particularly media brands. The path forward for legacy media brands is uncertain but almost assuredly both less glamorous and less lucrative -- and that's with the understanding that media companies usually had bigger brands than they had businesses. The arrival of AI is likely to accelerate that decline. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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9-5 Girl on TikTok sparked a debate over the outdated ideas of the 9-5 work day, which was stared by Henry Ford for the Industrial Era. Time and again, new generations have reacted against conventions and ended up pushing for change. We consider how this will accelerate change in work, politics and more. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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While many people pretend that “the media” are still gatekeepers to information, those days are past. The information space is a free for all in which the news industry is only a part, and arguably not even the most important part. From podcasts to newsletters to TikToks to tweets, the decentralized information space is already here and its evolution will have far reaching implications well beyond the fate of news companies and impact society itself. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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On a crossover episode of The Rebooting Show and People vs Algorithms, Alex and Brian discuss zero-interest rate phenomena and how they distorted by the tech industry and media industry -- all while giving us subsidized and unlicensed taxis and hotels along with some really silly stuff like all those scooters and the 15-minute delivery services that never made economic sense. With the new mantra of higher-for-longer, not to mention the promise and specter of AI, we discuss how that affects the type of business you build. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 Chris Kimball Says Screw the Algorithm 1:00:21
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“Deliver something nobody else is delivering,” advises Milk Street’s Christopher Kimball. The media veteran, who created Cooks Country and America’s Test Kitchen, joins the show to discuss why media needs to go back to basics to build lasting brands or be left behind as digital flotsam in an algorithmic feed. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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You don't have to be an engineer or be a developer to be a product person, although it helps. This week, we discuss how Elon Musk makes products, why non-technical people gravitate to product management and where media products go wrong. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 Bustle's Bryan Goldberg on the Post-Scale Era 1:29:20
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Bustle Digital Group's Bryan Goldberg joins to discuss why the scale era wasn't as great as it was portrayed. The future of digital media will be about brands that can hold cultural heft and use it well beyond the page to escape the yoke of algorithms. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Most of the challenges facing media come down to misaligned incentives. Publishers face a bad set of options to serve the competing interests of advertisers and the audience while keeping the lights on. The horror show of UK news sites is a sign of things to come. Publishers and platforms have long had misaligned incentives, as games studios are belatedly finding out, while companies are struggling to balance the incentives of workers, management and shareholders. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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This week, we discuss the rebundling, with a focus on the future of pay TV and why tech companies will inevitably be the rebundlers with media companies the rebundled. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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One person's "fire-breathing dragon" is another person's asshole. The zero-interest rate era is in the rearview mirror, and businesses will be under more pressure to do more with less. Between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, there is a celebration of behavior that might easily be described as assholish. This week, we contemplate where the line exists, particularly in an ambitious work environment. Plus: How our love of narratives gives rise to simplistic heroes-and-villains fables, and a defense of Burning Man as a haven of "creative optimists." Making Sense: Can We Contain Artificial Intelligence? Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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The foundations of mass media continue to erode, from the declining relevance of presidential debates to the uncertain future of TV in a streaming era to publishing brands becoming distribution channels for energy supplements. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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1 Media Is From Mars, Tech Is From Venus 53:06
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In this Brian-free episode Troy and Alex discuss the tension between media and tech, what changed and why. Plus: weird billionaire takes, the next internet, and a new browser. Debating the Future of AI: A Conversation with Marc Andreessen The Value of News Content to Google is Way More Than You Think Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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This week Troy, Brian and Alex talk about their summer media habits when on vacation or just trying to unplug. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter
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Maybe publishing stinks as a scaled business, and it won't ever be otherwise. The most promising models I see tend to focus on elite audiences of business or political decision makers, lifestyle segments that lend themselves to commercial transactions or front operations for other more lucrative businesses in completely different categories. That will require a refactoring of publishing organizations to cover more ground with fewer resources. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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This week: Media cannot escape being aggregated; Elon Musk's superapp fever dream; Hollywood's dead-cat bounce with Barbieheimer; and publishers look to events to exit a tough digital ad market. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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Every business deals with disruption and challenges, but the media business is somewhat unique in having such profound upheavals to its distribution paradigms. Music faced it first. Publishing went next. And now we’re seeing entertainment, whether TV or film, face the same turbulence as distribution shifts to streaming and the economics change profoundly. Plus: what’s cool, why corporate values aren’t much of a moat, how Airbnb puts design at the heart of everything it does and a review of Homewood Suites. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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The zero-interest rate is in the rearview mirror. And now comes the repricing, not just of assets but also talent. ESPN's been cutting high-priced on-air talent as it prepares for an end to the golden era of cable bundle subsidies. We've seen this happen already to the magazine industry, where the all-powerful magazine editor has faded and these roles become just another job. The clear path for most talent is to take an independent path and develop their own media company as opposed to being at the mercy of corporate whims. Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter Alex Schleifer's Universal Entities Follow Alex , Brian and Troy on Twitter…
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