12. Francis Bourgeois – On viral fame and dealing with criticism

Rylan: How to Be...

Rylan is joined by trainspotter Francis Bourgeois to discuss becoming an overnight internet sensation. Francis tells Rylan about his tricky teenage years and growing up as an outsider, confronting accusations that his train persona is “fake”, and trainspotting with Joe Jonas.

Rylan explores the good, the bad and the ugly of being thrust into the spotlight - with those who've lived to tell the tale.

Host: Rylan Assistant Producer: Satema Tarawally Edit Producer: Katie Grant Producer: Millie Chu Production Manager: Francesca Bassett Executive Producers: Barnaby Coughlin and Arron Fellows Music: Miguel d'Oliveira Assistant Commissioner: Will Drysdale Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts A Mindhouse production for BBC Sounds