Phil Venables on the State of the CISO

Safe Mode Podcast

In the first episode of 2025, Greg Otto dives into a conversation with Phil Venables, the Chief Information Security Officer of Google Cloud, who shares insights from his expansive career in cybersecurity. From his beginnings as Goldman Sachs' first CISO to his current role leading risk and security at Google, Phil discusses the evolving challenges CISOs face, including the impact of AI-powered cyber threats and strategies to prevent burnout. Discover Phil's perspectives on fostering a supportive organizational culture and the importance of proactive planning in strengthening cybersecurity resilience. In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Derek Johnson about a hacker scheme that abuses the guardrails in generative AI.