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In this episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, host Guy Podjarny sits down with Simon Last, co-founder of Notion, to discuss the company's innovative journey in AI integration. Simon Last shares the pioneering efforts that have positioned Notion as a leader in AI-driven productivity tools. From the early adoption of GPT-4 to the development of AI Writing Assistant, AI Autofill, and the Q&A feature, Simon discusses the vision, challenges, and future of AI in transforming digital collaboration. Discover how Notion's agile "tiger team" and rigorous evaluation processes drive continuous improvement in AI capabilities. Learn from Simon's insights into fine-tuning models, building trust in AI, and the future vision of automating tedious tasks to focus on strategic, high-level activities.
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Building Notion AI: Lessons Learned and Myths Busted with Simon Last, Notion Co-Founder and CTO

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Join Simon Maple as he hosts a compelling discussion at the State of Open Con, featuring Amanda Brock, CEO of OpenUK, Guy Podjarny, Founder and CEO of Tessl, and Richard Sikang Bian, Head of Open Source from Ant Group. This episode delves into the impact of DeepSeek R1, a groundbreaking AI model that has taken the market by storm due to its cost-effective and innovative approach. The panel explores the broader implications for open source AI, discussing legal, ethical, and collaborative aspects. Amanda Brock provides insights into the open source legal frameworks, while Guy Podjarny shares his expertise on transparency and innovation. Richard Sikang Bian offers a unique perspective on company culture and AI development strategies. Tune in to understand how DeepSeek R1 is setting new standards in AI and what the future holds for open source technology. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Live Monthly: News on DeepSeek, Stargate, StackBlitz (Bolt.new) funding, prompting, and more 51:46

לפני 24 weeks51:46

51:46

Join hosts Simon Maple and Guy Podjarny in this insightful episode as they discuss the latest trends and innovations in AI technology. Featuring the impressive advancements by DeepSeek, this episode highlights how these new developments are affecting major players like Nvidia and altering the AI landscape. The hosts also explore the significant investments in AI infrastructure and discuss the shifting role of developers in an AI-driven world. With expert insights from industry leaders, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of AI. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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RAG beats Fine-Tuning in learning your code base - but it doesn't make AI a better developer -Founder of Augment, Guy Gur-Ari explains 57:13

לפני 25 weeks57:13

57:13

In this episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, hosts Guy Podjarny, and Dion Almaer are joined by Guy Gur-Ari, co-founder of Augment. Guy Gur-Ari has a rich background in the tech industry, notably having worked at Google, where he gained significant experience with large language models (LLMs). His tenure at Google saw him involved in the transition from vision models to language models, including the development of groundbreaking tools like the Codex model. With a focus on AI-powered solutions, Guy Gur-Ari's work has been pivotal in advancing AI's role in software development, making him a voice of trust and authority in the field. The discussion in this episode dives into the creation and benefits of AI-powered coding assistants and tools, exploring how they enhance developer productivity and the future of software development with AI. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/McsKNfWPsUM Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Adapting your team culture for AI: DevOps Lessons Learned with Hannah Foxwell 42:21

לפני 26 weeks42:21

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In this episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, Simon Maple is joined by Hannah Foxwell, an independent consultant with significant experience in platform engineering, security, and AI. Hannah shares her journey from a release manager to leadership roles at Snyk and VMware, revealing her deep insights into the parallels between DevOps and AI adoption. As a community leader and event organizer, Hannah offers valuable perspectives on the cultural shifts necessary for embracing AI in development teams. Discover how AI is impacting both seasoned and novice developers, the importance of overcoming skepticism, and the future role of AI in software development. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/jGgqYLSLs8Q Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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From AI Assistants to Agents: How Sourcegraph is Transforming Enterprise Development 45:17

לפני 27 weeks45:17

45:17

In this episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, hosts Dion Almaer sit down with Quinn Slack, a trailblazer in the tech industry and CEO of Sourcegraph. Known for his contributions to enhancing developer tools, Quinn shares his insights on the inception of Sourcegraph, its evolution with AI integration, and the journey towards creating the advanced AI tool, Cody. From initial challenges in code search to the development of agentic AI, Quinn provides a comprehensive look at how Sourcegraph is pioneering AI-driven software development. Listeners will gain valuable knowledge on the role of AI in automating coding tasks, the importance of a collaborative developer mindset, and the future prospects of AI in the industry. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZTLSMN8eISs Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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LIVE 2024 Year in Review: AI Innovations and Predictions with Guy Podjarny 51:20

לפני 27 weeks51:20

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Join Simon Maple and Guy Podjarny as they recount the pivotal moments in AI development throughout 2024. This episode serves as a comprehensive review of the year, highlighting the evolution of AI tools, the competitive landscape among AI models, and the reality of AI hype. With expert guest Guy Podjarny, co-host of the podcast and a prominent figure in the tech industry, known for his leadership in developer security tools, the discussion delves into spec-centric development and predictions for 2025. Gain insights into the challenges and opportunities of AI as Simon and Guy share their perspectives on the future of AI-driven software development. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/live/NYuQpoG0Xvo Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Mastering LLM Prompting in the Real World by Macey Baker 38:32

לפני 28 weeks38:32

38:32

In this enlightening episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, host Simon Maple engages with Macey Baker, a Community Engineer at Tessl, to explore the intricacies of prompting in AI interactions. Macey shares her expertise on effective prompting techniques and discusses her unique role at Tessl that combines AI engineering with community engagement. With her vast experience, Macey provides listeners with practical tips and insights on how to maximize the potential of LLMs through strategic prompting. From understanding the significance of community engineering to the dynamic nature of prompts, this episode is packed with valuable information for developers looking to enhance their AI models' performance. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Crossover episode with The Infra Pod - AI Native Development with Guy Podjarny 56:17

לפני 30 weeks56:17

56:17

In this episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, Simon Maple introduces a special crossover event with the Infra Pod, featuring Guy Podjarny, CEO of Tessl and former founder of Snyk. Guy shares his journey from Snyk to Tessl and delves into the revolutionary concept of AI Native Development. Joined by Tim Chen and Ian Livingstone, they discuss the Tessl Vision and how AI is poised to reshape the software development landscape. Guy's insights on the separation of specification from implementation and the evolving role of AI in software creation provide a compelling vision of the future. With a focus on community engagement and events like AI Native DevCon, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of AI and software development. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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The Evolution of v0 and Vercel's AI SDK, with Malte Ubl, Vercel CTO 26:25

לפני 31 weeks26:25

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Join us for an engaging conversation with Malte Ubl, CTO of Vercel, as he delves into the transformative impact of AI on web development. Hosted by Dion Almaer from Tessl, this episode of the AI Native Dev Podcast explores how AI is reshaping the landscape for developers. Malte shares his journey from Google to Vercel and discusses the evolution of Vercel's AI SDK and v0 tool, along with the role of eval driven development in accelerating AI application refinement. Gain insights into the commoditization of AI models, the strategic use of proprietary data, and how full-stack development is being redefined by AI advancements. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/wrRsHlhpubY Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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AI Evaluation and Testing: How to Know When Your Product Works (or Doesn’t) 50:40

לפני 32 weeks50:40

50:40

This episode of AI Native Dev, hosted by Simon Maple and Guy Podjarny, features a mashup of conversations with leading figures in the AI industry. Guests include Des Traynor, founder of Intercom, who discusses the paradigm shift generative AI brings to product development. Rishabh Mehrotra, Head of AI at SourceGraph, emphasizes the importance of evaluation processes over model training. Tamar Yehoshua, President of Products and Technology at Glean, shares her experiences in enterprise search and the challenges of using LLMs in data-sensitive environments. Finally, Simon Last, Co-Founder and CTO of Notion, talks about continuous improvement and the iterative processes at Notion. Each guest provides invaluable insights into the evolving landscape of AI-driven products. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/gZ4sGROvOdQ Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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DevOps with AI: Identifying the impact zone, with Roxane Fischer 28:55

לפני 33 weeks28:55

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In this episode of AI Native Dev, hosted by Simon Maple, we sit down with Roxane Fischer, the Co-founder and CEO of Anyshift. Roxane brings her extensive knowledge in AI and DevOps to the table, providing a comprehensive overview of how AI can enhance infrastructure as code flows. With her background in AI research and entrepreneurship, Roxane offers a unique perspective on balancing generative AI with deterministic processes. The discussion covers a variety of topics, including the role of generative AI in accelerating development workflows, the challenges of integrating AI in infrastructure as code, and the potential of Synthesis AI in DevOps. Tune in to explore the future trends in AI and DevOps and learn about Anyshift's mission to improve visibility for SRE teams through a digital twin of infrastructure. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/eOTSG8UXGaw Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Live Roundup: AI Myth busting in the real world and more with Matt Biilmann, Ben Galbraith, Patrick Debois and Simon Last 42:09

לפני 33 weeks42:09

42:09

This month's episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, hosted by Simon Maple and Guy Podjarny, is a Thanksgiving special that brings together some of the brightest minds in AI and software development. Featuring Mathias Biilmann, CEO of Netlify; DevOps pioneer Patrick Debois; Notion's Simon Last; and Eric from StackBlitz, the episode explores the dynamic world of AI development. Discussions range from the impact of AI on the open web, innovative AI tools, and the evolving role of AI engineers. Tune in for a deep dive into the future of AI and its transformative power in software development. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/live/NYuQpoG0Xvo Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Building Notion AI: Lessons Learned and Myths Busted with Simon Last, Notion Co-Founder and CTO 53:07

לפני 34 weeks53:07

53:07

In this episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, host Guy Podjarny sits down with Simon Last, co-founder of Notion, to discuss the company's innovative journey in AI integration. Simon Last shares the pioneering efforts that have positioned Notion as a leader in AI-driven productivity tools. From the early adoption of GPT-4 to the development of AI Writing Assistant, AI Autofill, and the Q&A feature, Simon discusses the vision, challenges, and future of AI in transforming digital collaboration. Discover how Notion's agile "tiger team" and rigorous evaluation processes drive continuous improvement in AI capabilities. Learn from Simon's insights into fine-tuning models, building trust in AI, and the future vision of automating tedious tasks to focus on strategic, high-level activities. Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/hmPIA1cv3Dg Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Tessl Raises $125M to Build AI Native Development 36:02

לפני 35 weeks36:02

36:02

In this special episode of AI Native Dev, brought to you by Tessl, hosts Simon Maple and Guy Podjarny are joined by Ben Galbraith, a new addition to the Tessl team from Google, to discuss Tessl’s groundbreaking vision for AI Native Software Development. With a significant funding milestone of $125 million, Tessl is poised to revolutionize how software is conceived and built. Throughout the episode, Guy and Ben delve into the challenges of current software development methodologies, the role of Large Language Models (LLMs), and Tessl's commitment to an open ecosystem that fosters innovation and collaboration. Listen in to learn about Tessl's platform development journey, insights from product development, and their exciting plans for community engagement leading up to a public beta release in early 2025. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Y3k6HzkFxVo Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Beyond Coding assistants: Cursor as an API, Coding with gestures and more with Patrick Debois 36:47

לפני 36 weeks36:47

36:47

In this captivating episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, Simon Maple welcomes back Patrick Debois, a leading figure in the tech industry famously known as the "Father of DevOps." Patrick shares his transformative journey of integrating AI into his coding practices, discussing the evolution and impact of AI tools like GitHub Copilot and ChatGPT. With his profound experience in software delivery and automation, Patrick provides valuable insights into the role of AI in coding, covering topics from AI code generation to the significance of user experience and security in AI tools. Tune in to learn from Patrick's experiences and explore the potential of AI to revolutionize your software development processes. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Does AI threaten the open web? Challenges and Opportunities with Netlify's CEO & Co-Founder, Matt Biillmann 55:30

לפני 37 weeks55:30

55:30

In this episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, host Guy Podjarny welcomes Matt Biilmann, CEO and co-founder of Netlify, to explore the profound impact of AI on web development. Matt shares his journey from a music editor to a leading figure in web infrastructure, offering a unique perspective on AI-driven innovation. The conversation covers a range of topics, including AI-powered website builders, Netlify's strategic approach to AI, and the future of web development in an AI-enhanced world. Matt's insights provide a comprehensive understanding of how AI is set to revolutionize the digital landscape, making this episode a must-listen for developers and tech enthusiasts alike. YouTube link for full video: https://youtu.be/WhhGMZo-HLg Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Live Roundup: Embracing AI in Development and Infrastructure, with Liran Tal, Amara Graham, Armon Dadgar and Patrick Debois 48:19

לפני 37 weeks48:19

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In this episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, hosts Simon Maple and Guy Podjarny discuss the transformative role of AI in development and infrastructure. Featuring guests Liran Tal from Snyk, Armon Dadgar from HashiCorp, DevOps pioneer Patrick Debois, and Amara Graham from Camunda, the conversation covers AI code assistants, security in AI-generated code, and the cultural shifts in tech organizations. The episode offers a comprehensive look at how AI is reshaping the landscape and what it means for developers and tech companies. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Changing the Developer Documentation UX Workflow using AI with Amara Graham 32:42

לפני 38 weeks32:42

32:42

Join us for an insightful discussion with Amara Graham, a leader in developer experience at Camunda, as she delves into the transformative impact of AI on developer documentation. With her extensive background in developer relations and advocacy, Amara shares her journey and the innovative strategies employed at Camunda to integrate AI into documentation. This episode explores the role of AI in enhancing user experience, the challenges of implementing AI tools, and the future of AI in developer environments. Whether you're a developer, a technical writer, or an AI enthusiast, this episode offers valuable perspectives and practical insights into the dynamic intersection of AI and developer experience. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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From DevOps to AI: Patrick Debois Shares Strategies for Successful AI Integration and Cultural Change 30:03

לפני 39 weeks30:03

30:03

Join host Guy Podjarny as he sits down with Patrick Debois, known as the "father of DevOps", to discuss the rapidly evolving landscape of AI Native Development. With over two decades of experience in IT, Patrick offers a unique perspective on the parallels between AI and DevOps, emphasizing the need for integration and cultural change. In this insightful conversation, they delve into the speed of AI adoption, the importance of breaking down silos, and the role of governance in AI systems. Patrick also shares strategies for successful AI integration, highlighting the significance of engineering practices and continuous improvement. Whether you're a seasoned developer or new to AI, this episode provides valuable insights into harnessing the power of AI in modern software development. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Can AI Tools Be Trusted with Security-Critical Code? Real World AI Security Risks with Liran Tal 37:35

לפני 40 weeks37:35

37:35

Join Simon Maple as he hosts Liran Tal, a Developer Advocate at Snyk, in a fascinating exploration of AI's impact on security. Liran, with his extensive background in software development and application security, shares valuable insights into how AI influences security practices, both as a tool and a potential threat. The discussion covers a wide range of topics, from non-determinism in AI to the role of AI code assistants and the implications of LLM-generated responses. Liran offers practical advice for developers on integrating security into their workflows and balancing AI's capabilities with human oversight. This episode is a must-listen for developers interested in the evolving landscape of AI and security. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Armon Dadgar, Hashicorp co-founder, on AI Native DevOps: Can AI shape the future of Autonomous DevOps workloads? 46:52

לפני 41 weeks46:52

46:52

Join Guy Podjarny as he sits down with Armon Dadgar, Co-founder of HashiCorp, in this insightful episode of AI Native Dev. Armon shares his expertise on the evolving role of AI in modern infrastructure management, discussing the life cycle of infrastructure, the tools involved, and the potential for AI to automate and streamline these processes. Through this conversation, Armon provides a comprehensive look at the future of AI integration in DevOps, detailing challenges, opportunities, and the skills necessary to thrive in this rapidly changing landscape. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Monthly Roundup: AI Security, AI Documentation, Enterprise AI Strategies, with Ben Galbraith 30:22

לפני 42 weeks30:22

30:22

Join hosts Simon Maple and Guy Podjarny as they recap the highlights from September's sessions on the AI Native Developer podcast. Featuring special guest Ben Galbraith, we explore diverse topics ranging from enterprise AI strategies and AI-driven documentation updates to the latest in AI security practices. Ben shares his career journey and insights from his new role at Tessl, providing listeners with a glimpse into the future of AI Native Development. This episode is packed with expert opinions and practical advice for developers looking to harness the power of AI. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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Can Claude 3.5 build production-quality apps without us having to write code? Felipe Aguirre tried doing just that! 37:49

לפני 42 weeks37:49

37:49

In this enlightening episode of the AI Native Dev podcast, Simon Maple sits down with Felipe Aguirre, a seasoned data scientist with a PhD in computer science and over 15 years of experience. Felipe, the organizer of the global AI Tinkerers community, shares his journey from academia to entrepreneurship and delves into the transformative potential of AI in software development. He provides practical insights on using AI tools like Claude to generate code and build applications, illustrating how these innovations can streamline development workflows and boost productivity. Whether you're a developer curious about AI or a tech enthusiast, this episode offers valuable perspectives on the future of coding. Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io…

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