Pod#196 - Shehzil Malik - Art, feminism, culture shocks, Pakistani realities & more!

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Shehzil Malik is on the show! We talk about so many things. Art, feminism, living in Pakistan and then not living in Pakistan and doing that again, Ms Marvel, the value of art in Pakistan and so many things! She's great!

Things discussed in this episode:

00:00 Why is she in Berlin & European lifestyle culture shock & western problems seem like nothing but are valid & what is her fellowship about?

10:09 How it started - early life, getting into art, Fulbright scholarship and coming back to Pakistan

15:56 How her art started to take on decidedly political angle, working with NGOs in Pakistan

20:50 Returning to Pakistan and taking on feminist themes in her work, Aurat March and public/internet discourse around the issues

30:19 Trying to figure out how aware people are in Pakistan of why feminist issues are universal causes

38:33 Does she feel creating art about such heavy issues limited her from exploring other themes?

44:50 What is the value of art in Pakistan among the general public? Also how there is art deeply embedded in daily life but not recognized as such.

56:01 Are Pakistanis generally just more self critical and almost self loathing vs other nations?

1:03:21 Interlude about language, accents, and colonial hangovers

1:07:52 Ms Marvel! - but then distracted by my hotel room

1:11:32 Back to Ms Marvel, and also does Shehzil feel like she’s an established artist?Also, what do the next few years look like careerwise?

1:17:53 Talking about Jinn Stories!

1:24:19 How the simplest of issues like public safety and freedom of movement might be the most pervasive “feminist but actually basic human rights” issues in Pakistan

1:33:00 Chaotic outro

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Her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shehzilm/

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