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237: Solving Ethereum’s Liquidity Problem: Barna from Malda on Unified Lending Across Rollups

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תוכן מסופק על ידי Sam Kamani. כל תוכן הפודקאסטים כולל פרקים, גרפיקה ותיאורי פודקאסטים מועלים ומסופקים ישירות על ידי Sam Kamani או שותף פלטפורמת הפודקאסט שלהם. אם אתה מאמין שמישהו משתמש ביצירה שלך המוגנת בזכויות יוצרים ללא רשותך, אתה יכול לעקוב אחר התהליך המתואר כאן https://he.player.fm/legal.

Barna, co-founder of Malda and mendi.finance, joins the podcast to break down Ethereum’s biggest DeFi problem: liquidity fragmentation. He explains how their protocol is using ZK co-processors and a host-extension chain model to unify lending and borrowing across rollups like Linea, Base, and more. We talk about why Ethereum’s growth has stalled, how liquidation mechanics work across chains, and what’s next in capital-efficient DeFi.

Key Timestamps[00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces Barna and previews the discussion on Ethereum, DeFi, and Malda.

[00:01:00] Barna’s Background: From VC to Web3—how Barna entered crypto and launched Mendi Finance.

[00:02:30] Rise of Rollups: Why Mendi chose Linea and the appeal of zk rollups.

[00:04:00] Fragmentation Problem: How liquidity gets stuck across chains and slows DeFi down.[00:07:30] Bridging Bottlenecks: Why even optimistic rollups and native bridges hurt capital efficiency.

[00:10:00] Lending Constraints: How fragmented liquidity impacts borrowing depth and real-time trades.

[00:13:00] Global Architecture: The host-extension chain model and zkVMs powering Malda’s unified protocol

[00:17:30] Liquidations Across Chains: Barna explains how Malda lets liquidators repay from any supported chain

[00:20:00] Testnet + Mainnet Plans: What's next for Malda as they prepare for launch and audits.

[00:22:00] Future Upgrades: Building dynamic interest rates, loyalty incentives, and more with zk computation.

[00:24:30] Ask and Call to Action: Public sale coming soon—team open to investors, builders, and contributors.

[00:26:00] Wrap-Up: Sam and Barna close the episode with final thoughts and how to connect.

Connect

https://malda.xyz/

https://mendi.finance/

https://x.com/malda_xyz

https://x.com/realbarnakiss

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Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend.
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237: Solving Ethereum’s Liquidity Problem: Barna from Malda on Unified Lending Across Rollups

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תוכן מסופק על ידי Sam Kamani. כל תוכן הפודקאסטים כולל פרקים, גרפיקה ותיאורי פודקאסטים מועלים ומסופקים ישירות על ידי Sam Kamani או שותף פלטפורמת הפודקאסט שלהם. אם אתה מאמין שמישהו משתמש ביצירה שלך המוגנת בזכויות יוצרים ללא רשותך, אתה יכול לעקוב אחר התהליך המתואר כאן https://he.player.fm/legal.

Barna, co-founder of Malda and mendi.finance, joins the podcast to break down Ethereum’s biggest DeFi problem: liquidity fragmentation. He explains how their protocol is using ZK co-processors and a host-extension chain model to unify lending and borrowing across rollups like Linea, Base, and more. We talk about why Ethereum’s growth has stalled, how liquidation mechanics work across chains, and what’s next in capital-efficient DeFi.

Key Timestamps[00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces Barna and previews the discussion on Ethereum, DeFi, and Malda.

[00:01:00] Barna’s Background: From VC to Web3—how Barna entered crypto and launched Mendi Finance.

[00:02:30] Rise of Rollups: Why Mendi chose Linea and the appeal of zk rollups.

[00:04:00] Fragmentation Problem: How liquidity gets stuck across chains and slows DeFi down.[00:07:30] Bridging Bottlenecks: Why even optimistic rollups and native bridges hurt capital efficiency.

[00:10:00] Lending Constraints: How fragmented liquidity impacts borrowing depth and real-time trades.

[00:13:00] Global Architecture: The host-extension chain model and zkVMs powering Malda’s unified protocol

[00:17:30] Liquidations Across Chains: Barna explains how Malda lets liquidators repay from any supported chain

[00:20:00] Testnet + Mainnet Plans: What's next for Malda as they prepare for launch and audits.

[00:22:00] Future Upgrades: Building dynamic interest rates, loyalty incentives, and more with zk computation.

[00:24:30] Ask and Call to Action: Public sale coming soon—team open to investors, builders, and contributors.

[00:26:00] Wrap-Up: Sam and Barna close the episode with final thoughts and how to connect.

Connect

https://malda.xyz/

https://mendi.finance/

https://x.com/malda_xyz

https://x.com/realbarnakiss

Disclaimer

Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend.
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261: From Swiss Banking to Blockchain: Michele Crivelli on RWA Tokenization via NexBridge 25:39

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What does it take to bring regulated, yield-bearing assets like U.S. Treasuries on-chain? Michele Crivelli, co-founder of NexBridge, shares how they're solving financial inclusion through tokenization of RWAs on the Liquid Network. From regulatory approvals in El Salvador to plans for tokenized equities and discretionary mandates, Michele breaks down the steps, the setbacks, and the massive potential of compliant asset tokenization. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces Michele and the episode’s focus on tokenized real-world assets. [00:01:00] Michele's Journey: From Swiss banker to launching NexBridge in El Salvador. [00:02:00] Vision for NexBridge: Why Michele believes tokenization is key for financial inclusion. [00:05:00] Differentiating NexBridge: Regulated issuance and choosing Liquid Network over Ethereum. [00:10:00] Ideal Users & Use Cases: Investors, emerging markets, and treasuries as collateral. [00:12:00] Go-to-Market Strategy: Working with centralized exchanges and regulatory hurdles. [00:15:00] The Education Gap: Why RWA adoption is still misunderstood. [00:17:00] Roadmap: Tokenized equities, discretionary mandates, and SME fundraising in LatAm. [00:20:00] Cross-chain Strategy: Bitcoin-first, but open to EVM chains. [00:21:00] Challenges: Banking hurdles and fragmented global regulation. [00:23:00] Lessons Learned: What Michele would do differently if starting again. [00:24:00] Final Ask: Michele’s call for CEX partnerships to expand distribution. [00:25:00] Outro: Sam wraps up with links and how to connect with NexBridge. Connect https://www.nexbridge.io/en https://www.linkedin.com/company/nexbridgesv/ https://x.com/NexBridgeSV https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-crivelli-0414a121/ https://x.com/michelecrivelli Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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260: Interoperability for Every Chain: Jon Kol from Hyperlane on Building Seamless Cross-Chain Communication 38:52

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Jon Kol, founder of Hyperlane, joins Sam Kamani to dive deep into one of crypto’s biggest challenges—interoperability. From his days at Morgan Stanley to building Hyperlane, Jon shares how they’re enabling any chain to communicate with any other through permissionless, modular frameworks. He explains why monolithic architectures can’t scale, how modular security flips the bridge security model, and why interchain accounts will redefine how users interact with Web3. If you're building across chains, this episode is a must-listen. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces Jon Kol and the mission of Hyperlane—interoperability for every chain. [00:01:00] Early Crypto Days: Jon shares his Bitcoin and Ethereum rabbit hole moment at Morgan Stanley. [00:03:00] From Wall Street to Web3: Why he left traditional finance to help rebuild the internet of value. [00:06:00] Why Hyperlane: The realization that one chain can’t serve global finance—and the need for scalable communication. [00:08:00] Building Blocks: The philosophy behind Hyperlane and how it differs from LayerZero, Cosmos, etc. [00:10:00] Modular Interoperability: Any chain, any VM—Hyperlane can connect them all. [00:12:00] Security First: How Hyperlane’s modular security avoids the “one breach risks all” trap. [00:14:00] Defense in Depth: Let developers stack their own security modules and future-proof integrations. [00:18:00] Use Cases: From DeFi bridges to governance, interchain AMMs, and yield routing via Superform. [00:22:00] Interchain Accounts: Why the future is one wallet, infinite access—regardless of chain or VM. [00:26:00] The Stablecoin Pain Point: Fragmentation across chains and the case for gasless, one-click stablecoin transfers. [00:30:00] Lessons Learned: What Jon would do differently—don’t wait for others, build use cases in-house. [00:34:00] 2025 Vision: Interoperability becomes invisible—users stay on one chain, access anything cross-chain. [00:36:00] The Ask: Hyperlane is hiring builders who want to fix fragmentation and unlock Web3’s next layer. Connect https://hyperlane.xyz/ https://x.com/hyperlane https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-kol-4bb37a9b/ https://x.com/thepalenimbus Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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259: Market Making Mastery: Martins from Gravity Team on Trading, Liquidity, and Web3 Investments 27:47

לפני 6 ימים27:47

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Martins from Gravity Team joins Sam to discuss the evolution of market making in Web3. Starting as a prop trading desk in 2017, Gravity now trades 1% of all spot crypto volume, provides liquidity to token projects, and invests in Web3 infrastructure. Martins explains what founders should look for in a market maker, why stablecoins and payments are the next wave, and how Gravity is building a global trading platform with offices from Latvia to Singapore. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces Martins from Gravity Team and outlines the episode’s topics. [00:01:00] Origin Story: Martins shares how he discovered Bitcoin in 2017 and launched a trading desk. [00:02:00] Early Arbitrage: Realizing inefficiencies in the Thai crypto market sparked Gravity’s beginning. [00:04:00] What is Gravity: Martins explains Gravity’s transition from prop trading to market making and investments. [00:05:30] Differentiator: Gravity’s strength lies in bridging Web2 ↔ Web3 through tech-driven liquidity services. [00:06:30] Market Making 101: Why projects need market makers and what they should look for. [00:09:00] One-Stop Shop: Gravity offers OTC, treasury, and even investment—beyond just spreads. [00:11:00] Regulation Shift: Why 2025 will mark the rise of stablecoins and Web3 payment rails. [00:14:00] Prop Trading Arm: Gravity still runs HFT strategies, not just market making for clients. [00:16:00] Investment Focus: Gravity’s criteria for backing projects like Cookie3 and Usual Labs. [00:18:00] Strategic Synergies: Gravity looks to invest in other trading teams and infrastructure. [00:19:30] Key Trends: The stablecoin surge and institutional interest in payments. [00:20:30] Infrastructure Gap: Web3 needs a “Stripe for stablecoins” to reach mass adoption. [00:21:00] Biggest Lesson: Martins would’ve scaled faster and taken more risk early on. [00:23:00] Managing Risk: Why mission-aligned strategies beat short-term gains. [00:25:00] Final Ask: Gravity is hiring globally, investing in trading talent, and open to partnerships. Connect https://gravityteam.co https://www.linkedin.com/company/gravity-team-ltd/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/martins-benkitis/ Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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258: Inside MultiversX: Building the World’s Fastest Blockchain with Lucian 39:05

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Lucian from MultiversX (formerly Elrond) joins Sam Kamani to break down how they’re building one of the fastest L1 blockchains in the world. From sharding to Supernova, discover how MultiversX is tackling decentralization, scalability, and real-world adoption with a new wave of architecture, global partnerships, and government use cases. Lucian also shares what he’d do differently, how they're supporting builders, and the thinking behind their US expansion. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces Lucian and today's focus on MultiversX and scalable L1 innovation. [00:01:00] Web3 Origins: Lucian shares his early exposure to Bitcoin and the journey from NAM to founding Elrond [00:04:00] Why Elrond Started: Gaps in scalability, early insights on sharding, and forming the founding team. [00:06:00] Tech Architecture: The database analogy for blockchain – consensus, state, and disk. [00:08:00] Understanding Sharding: Lucian explains adaptive state sharding using real-world computing concepts. [00:11:00] Scaling Without Sacrifice: How MultiversX optimizes scalability without compromising decentralization. [00:12:00] Current Use Cases: From DeFi and NFTs to real government integrations and national-level domain projects. [00:14:00] Andromeda Upgrade: One-shot finality explained and how it transforms blockchain performance. [00:15:30] Supernova Upgrade: Reducing block time to 600ms and beyond – toward real-time L1 performance. [00:17:00] Tradeoffs and Vision: What Lucian’s team chose to optimize for and the engineering behind it. [00:23:00] What He’d Do Differently: From launching in Europe to distribution lessons and US expansion. [00:26:00] Bootstrapping Usage: Lucian discusses incentivizing real use over speculation. [00:30:00] Scaling with Ecosystem: Stablecoins, gaming, payments, DeFi, and government adoption trends. [00:34:00] Call to Action: Lucian invites builders, governments, and investors to collaborate. [00:36:00] Roadmap Highlights: Why Andromeda and Supernova are game-changers for the L1 space. [00:37:00] Grants and Investment: Supporting startups via Growth Games and launchpad ecosystem. [00:38:00] Final Words: Sam wraps up with links and how to get involved with MultiversX. Connect https://multiversx.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/multiversx/ https://x.com/multiversx https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucianmincu/ https://x.com/lucianmincu Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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257: Rebuilding Banking from the Ground Up — Maksym on WeFi’s Decentralized Mission 19:15

לפני 11 ימים19:15

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In this episode, I speak with Maksym , founder of WeFi , about his mission to create a fully decentralized alternative to traditional and neobanks. We dive into his origin story, the architecture of WeFi, how it abstracts complex DeFi systems for everyday users, and why millions of unbanked users are the real opportunity. Maksym also shares insights on banking regulations, token incentives, and why simplicity—not complexity—wins mass adoption. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces the episode featuring Maksym from WeFi. [00:01:00] Origin Story: Maksym shares how he got into crypto in 2016 while building a real estate tech platform. [00:02:00] Early Challenges: Why traditional banks were the biggest blockers for blockchain adoption. [00:03:30] What Is Deobank?: The evolution from banks to neobanks to Deobank. [00:04:30] Custodial vs. Non-Custodial: How Deobank bridges both models seamlessly. [00:06:30] Regulatory Shift: Why banks are now more open to crypto partnerships. [00:08:00] UX is Everything: The challenge of educating users and abstracting DeFi complexity. [00:10:00] Who Can Use It?: Targeting the 1.4 billion unbanked people worldwide. [00:11:00] Ferrari Giveaway: Maksym explains why community-first is core to WeFi's vision. [00:13:00] Visa Integration: How WeFi offers real-world spending with stablecoins. [00:15:00] Instant Yield: Why users earn on idle stablecoins—even while spending. [00:17:00] What’s Next: Launching DeFi-native credit products and scaling to 1M users. [00:18:30] Final Ask: Maksym calls for community builders, not funding. Connect https://wefi.co/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/wefi-co/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/maksym-sakharov/ Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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256: Reinventing Stablecoins: Bundeep Singh on Pi Protocol, Tokenized Treasuries & Decentralized Yield 17:04

לפני 13 ימים17:04

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In this episode, Sam Kamani talks with Bundeep Singh Ranga, co-founder of Pi Protocol, about a new model for stablecoins. Bundeep shares how Pi separates principal and interest using tokenized US treasuries, empowering anyone to become a stablecoin minter and earn yield—without giving up liquidity. We explore why stablecoins are just getting started, what decentralization really means for finance, and how Pi Protocol plans to reach underserved markets around the globe. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces Bundeep Singh and the stablecoin focus of this episode. [00:01:00] Immigrant Mindset: How being an outsider inspired Bundeep’s entrepreneurial journey. [00:03:00] Market Opportunity: Stablecoins vs. global fiat—why we’re at just 0.0002% of the addressable market [00:04:30] Birth of Pi Protocol: Solving the limitations of centralized minting by decentralizing the yield. [00:06:30] How Pi Works: Users mint stablecoins by bringing tokenized US treasuries and retain the yield. [00:08:30] The Tether Comparison: How Pi gives users what centralized stablecoins keep for themselves. [00:10:00] Breaking the Atom: Separating principal (stablecoin) from interest (yield) with smart contracts. [00:13:00] Not a Security: How Pi avoids regulatory friction while offering real utility and upside. [00:14:00] Get Involved: Testnet now live on Solana and Ethereum—how to access and contribute. [00:15:00] Global South Focus: Why unbanked and remittance-heavy markets are ripe for stablecoin adoption. [00:16:00] Closing Thoughts: Pi’s vision, open roles, and why now is the best time to join. Connect https://www.pi-protocol.io/#/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/piprotocol/ https://x.com/PiProtocol https://www.linkedin.com/in/rangar/ https://x.com/bundeep Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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255: Why Build Another L1? Paul from Somnia on Somnia Protocol’s High-Throughput Blockchain 29:33

לפני 16 ימים29:33

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Paul, co-founder of Somnia Protocol and former Improbable exec, joins Sam Kamani to unpack why we still need new Layer 1s—and how Somnia’s high-performance, EVM-compatible blockchain is designed for mass-scale gaming, AI agents, and prediction markets. From his time at Goldman Sachs to building billion-dollar startups, Paul shares deep technical insights on compression, consensus, and abstracting Web3 for everyday users. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces the episode featuring Paul from Somnia Protocol. [00:01:00] Guest Intro: Paul shares his journey from Goldman Sachs to building billion-dollar gaming infrastructure. [00:03:00] Discovering Ethereum: Why Ethereum sparked Paul’s imagination more than Bitcoin. [00:04:00] Gaming & Interoperability: Building large-scale immersive events and early Metaverse experiments. [00:07:00] Why Somnia?: The technical limitations that forced them to build a new L1. [00:10:00] Compression Innovation: Solving blockchain bottlenecks with novel networking and compression. [00:13:00] Who’s Building on Somnia: Projects in gaming, DeFi, AI, social, and entertainment. [00:15:00] Blockchain Should Be Invisible: Why UX abstraction is the next big unlock for Web3. [00:18:00] Mainnet Plans: What Somnia needs before mainnet—ecosystem readiness, tech, and community. [00:20:00] Founder's Lessons: Why Paul wishes he invested in public storytelling and personal brand earlier. [00:23:00] Gaming Favorites: From League of Legends to Zelda—how Paul still finds time to game. [00:25:00] The Real Web3 Gaming Unlock: Prediction markets and financializing gameplay. [00:27:00] Final Ask: Paul’s call to developers and consumers to explore Somnia Testnet. Connect https://somnia.network/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/somnianetwork/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-thomas-90042b36/ https://x.com/Somnia_Network https://x.com/0xPaulThomas Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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253: Polyhedra’s Eric on Scaling Secure AI with ZK Proofs and Real-Time ML Verification 28:49

לפני 23 ימים28:49

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Eric from Polyhedra joins Sam Kamani to unpack how zero-knowledge proofs are redefining interoperability, AI verification, and developer tooling. They dive into the launch of ZK PyTorch, EXP Chain, and how verifiable AI could become the new standard for trusted machine learning. If you’re building with LLMs, exploring trustless infrastructure, or care about blockchain security—this episode is for you. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam welcomes Eric from Polyhedra and previews the conversation on ZK proofs, AI, and Web3. [00:01:00] Polyhedra Origin: Eric shares how he met the team while working at LayerZero and why he joined the project. [00:02:30] The Problem with Bridges: Why Polyhedra’s ZK-based approach makes interoperability more secure. [00:04:00] What is Expander?: A fast, scalable ZK proof system designed for real-time verifiability. [00:06:00] ZK PyTorch: Turning any PyTorch model into a verifiable model in minutes. [00:08:00] Verifiable AI Use Cases: Why financial applications like agents handling payments need proof-backed AI. [00:10:00] Developer Workflow: How easy it is to integrate ZK PyTorch into existing machine learning pipelines. [00:13:30] ZKML Festival & Community: Polyhedra’s push to educate AI developers on trust-minimized systems. [00:15:30] Marketing Advice: Eric’s background in content-driven growth, and why domain-specific content still wins. [00:19:30] EXP Chain: Polyhedra’s new L1 for verifying ZK proofs cheaply and efficiently on-chain. [00:23:30] The Future of Verifiable AI: The team’s goal to bring sub-second ZK proofs to large language models. [00:25:00] Call to Action: How developers, users, and founders can get involved with Polyhedra’s ecosystem. Connect https://www.polyhedra.network/ https://x.com/PolyhedraZK https://www.linkedin.com/company/polyhedrazk/ https://x.com/vreeland https://www.linkedin.com/in/evreeland/ Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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252: How Sapien is Empowering the AI Gig Economy with Blockchain and Real Rewards, with Ben Noble from Sapien 40:36

לפני 5 weeks40:36

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How do you power the next generation of AI — without centralized data monopolies? In this episode, I talk with Ben Noble , Marketing Director at Sapien, about how Sapien is building the world’s first decentralized data foundry — rewarding people for training AI and contributing real-world data. We cover: How Sapien is combining Web3 incentives with AI data collection Why real human input still matters for AI training Ben’s best advice for marketing Web3/AI startups Storytelling strategies for founders How to simplify complex ideas and drive viral messaging If you’re building in AI, Web3, or growth marketing, this episode is packed with practical insights you can use immediately. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces the episode and previews key topics: AI, Web3, storytelling, and startup growth. [00:01:00] Ben’s Journey: How Ben got started in AI, left for Web3, and came full circle. [00:04:00] What Sapien Does: Decentralized data foundry explained — sourcing human expertise to train AI. [00:06:00] How It Works: How users earn rewards by contributing data to Sapien’s platform. [00:09:00] Customers and Use Cases: Sapien’s partnerships with enterprises like Alibaba, the UN, and others. [00:13:00] Safeguards: How Sapien prevents bots and fake data submissions. [00:15:00] Why Human Data Still Matters: The limits of AI and the need for human empathy and diversity. [00:19:00] Growth Strategies: Ben shares why partnerships and referrals outperform traditional marketing. [00:22:00] Web3 vs Web2 Marketing: The importance of authenticity, speed, and viral one-liners. [00:27:00] Future of AI: Will we see iterative improvements or major leaps? Ben’s perspective. [00:30:00] Storytelling Lessons: Why contextualizing numbers is crucial for effective messaging. [00:36:00] What’s Next for Sapien: Growing to 1M+ taskers and scaling the AI gig economy. [00:39:00] How to Get Involved: Sapien is closing their Series A and looking for users to join their data platform. Connect https://game.sapien.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/playsapien/ https://x.com/playsapien https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminmnoble/ Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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251: From Bots to Breakthroughs — Bandit Network’s Plan to Reinvent Web3 Growth 27:06

לפני 5 weeks27:06

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How do you grow a Web3 startup without falling into the same old traps — airdrops, bots, and unsustainable hype? In this episode, I speak with Sandesh , founder of Bandit Network , who shares how they’re building growth infrastructure for Web3 — combining off-chain and on-chain data, enabling sustainable campaigns, and even launching their own rollup for deeper integrations. We explore: Why airdrops and point systems often fail How meme launchpads are evolving into engagement tools Mapping Twitter usernames to wallet addresses Growth lessons from powering campaigns for Bonk, Brave, and Shardeum If you care about Web3 user acquisition, retention, and real community-led engagement — this one's for you. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam sets up the episode and introduces Sandesh from Bandit Network. [00:01:00] Bandit Overview: Sandesh explains what Bandit does and how his journey from AI to Web3 began. [00:04:00] Early Web3 Involvement: Sandesh shares how his AI-powered creator startup was acquired and how that led to Bandit. [00:06:00] The Problem with Growth Tools: Why airdrop tools failed and how Bandit builds Lego-like infrastructure for campaigns. [00:09:00] Trends in Growth: Why meme launchpads are evolving into community engagement tools. [00:13:00] Meme Campaign Example: How one community uses roasts and meme voting as engagement loops. [00:15:00] Airdrops vs Bots: Sandesh explains how Bandit uses tools like Proof of Humanity and Bitcoin Passport to combat sybil attacks. [00:18:00] Challenges and Monetization: Bandit’s biggest challenge is staying trend-adaptable; revenue is SaaS + custom token deals. [00:21:00] What’s Next: Bandit is launching a rollup protocol for mapping Web2 identities to Web3 wallets. [00:24:00] The Bigger Vision: Building a decentralized growth protocol with support from QuickNode. [00:25:00] Fundraising: Bandit is raising $3–4M in their current seed round. [00:26:00] Closing Thoughts: Sam recaps why Bandit solves a real and pressing pain point in Web3 growth. Connect http://bandit.network/ https://x.com/OnBndit https://www.linkedin.com/company/onbndit/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandeshbsuvarna/ https://x.com/sandeshsuvarna Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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250: Meme Coins with a Mission: Neiro’s Journey from Rug Pull to Global Community 42:27

לפני 6 weeks42:27

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What happens when a meme coin gets rugged—and the community takes over? In this episode, Sam chats with S from Neiro , the community takeover lead, to explore the real mechanics behind meme coin takeovers, the evolution of the Neiro project, and how it became the spiritual successor to Dogecoin. From Vitalik-backed donations to exclusive IP licensing and thoughts on political meme coins like TrumpCoin and Milady, S shares what it takes to build a decentralized movement in a chaotic crypto market. They also dive into the current state of macroeconomic uncertainty, how meme coins can bridge to real-world products, and why community contributors matter more than token holders. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces S from Neiro and sets the tone for a deep dive into community-led meme coins. [00:01:00] Neiro Origins: S shares how he stumbled into Neiro after a developer rugged and the community took over. [00:03:00] What Is a Community Takeover?: S explains how decentralized contributors rebuild abandoned tokens. [00:07:00] Decentralization & Purpose: Why meme coins can create meaning and a sense of belonging. [00:09:00] Charity & Vitalik's Donation: How Neiro caught Vitalik’s attention and began its mission-led narrative. [00:11:00] IP Rights & Real-World Utility: S talks about exclusive Neiro licensing and monetization ideas like NFTs and pet food. [00:15:00] Meme Coins vs Political Tokens: Thoughts on TrumpCoin, Millennia, and the extractive nature of some meme trends. [00:20:00] Timing in Crypto: Why meme coin success (or failure) often depends on timing. [00:27:00] DeFi x Meme Coins: Can meme tokens integrate into lending, staking, and other financial products? [00:31:00] Dealing with Volatility: S shares mindset tips for surviving crypto market swings as a leader. [00:35:00] The Global Market Chaos: Thoughts on current macro uncertainty and political influence on the markets. [00:39:00] Final Ask: S encourages contributors to join Neiro’s mission—not just as investors, but as builders. Connect https://x.com/neiro https://www.neiroeth.io/ https://t.me/ETHNEIROCTO Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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249: Building Web3’s First Gaming Franchise: Frank Cheng on Apeiron, DoodiPals & Beyond 39:24

לפני 6 weeks39:24

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Frank Cheng, founder of Apeiron and DoodiPals, joins Sam to unpack four years of building in Web3 gaming. From raising three funding rounds to building an entire gaming franchise, Frank shares practical lessons on tokenomics, community building, and how to retain real players. Learn why most Web3 games fail and how to fix them, what role AI will play, and why "fun" is the best utility of all. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces Frank Cheng from Apeiron and DoodiPals. [00:01:00] Frank’s Background: From private equity to gaming founder. [00:03:00] Fundraising Journey: Raising 3 rounds and migrating to Ronin. [00:05:00] Web3 vs. eSports: Monetization struggles and similarities. [00:09:00] Tokenomics: Apeiron’s dual-token model and real utility. [00:11:00] Mobile Strategy: Expansion across SEA and Latin America. [00:13:00] Retention: DAU strategies, off-season drops, and incentives. [00:15:00] Community: How Frank built lasting connections on Discord. [00:18:00] Duty Pals: The IP and content strategy behind the Apeiron universe. [00:20:00] Future Trends: Web3 onboarding friction and AI’s potential. [00:23:00] Generative AI: Challenges, copyright, and training game agents. [00:28:00] Roadmap 2025: Memes with fundamentals, new token layers. [00:30:00] Inspirations: What Axie Infinity and Big Time get right. [00:32:00] Evolving Tokenomics: Why vesting by usage beats time-based unlocks. [00:35:00] Founder Reflections: What Frank would do differently. [00:38:00] Final Ask: Looking for investors, talent, and community partners. Connect https://apeironnft.com/ https://x.com/ApeironNFT https://www.doodipals.com/ https://x.com/DoodiPals https://x.com/FrankTCheng https://www.linkedin.com/in/franktcheng/ Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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248: From Wall Street to Web3 Agents: Yang Tang on the Future of Autonomous AI 48:20

לפני 6 weeks48:20

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Yang Tang, co-founder of Memetica, joins Sam to dive deep into the world of AI agents — what they are, how they’re trained, and how they’re already generating value across Web2 and Web3. From his background in institutional finance and machine learning to launching BSD and Liam, Yang walks us through building intelligent, monetizable agents and why the future of AI is vertical-specific and application-first. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam welcomes Yang Tang and introduces the topic of AI agents. [00:01:00] Yang’s Background: From Wall Street to machine learning to Web3. [00:03:00] Evolution of Trading: How everything became algorithmic post-2008. [00:05:00] Why AI Agents Now: LLMs aren't applications — agents are. [00:06:00] Core Features: Memetica’s pillars — memory, RL, and utility. [00:08:00] Competing with Giants: Why focus beats AGI and big capital. [00:10:00] Data Strategy: Why private data is useless without context. [00:12:00] Use Cases: Real-world agent examples like Liam and BSD. [00:14:00] Reinforcement Learning: How Liam evolved to boost impressions. [00:16:00] Tokens and Agents: The rise of BSD and market cap milestones. [00:18:00] Pricing and Ownership: Who owns the agent’s IP and revenue? [00:20:00] SME and Enterprise Use: From sports betting to social media ops. [00:23:00] Institutional AI Demand: Why application matters more than research. [00:25:00] Distribution Challenges: Why even strong products struggle to scale. [00:28:00] Time vs. Decision Value: Where AI agents can win right now. [00:30:00] Agent vs. Human: Running A/B tests with agents on social. [00:34:00] AI Misuse: The Trump chart story and hallucination risks. [00:36:00] Launching Tokens: What it takes to create tokenized agents. [00:38:00] Utility vs. Distraction: The token paradox for founders. [00:41:00] Building for SMEs: Future plans to support long-tail businesses. [00:44:00] Hiring and Scaling: What Memetica needs to grow. [00:46:00] Accuracy & Safeguards: How Memetica agents reach 95%+ accuracy. [00:47:00] Final Ask: Yang is raising, hiring, and looking to onboard more creators and partners. Connect https://memetica.ai/ https://x.com/memeticaAI https://www.linkedin.com/company/qstarlabs/ https://x.com/yangtang https://www.linkedin.com/in/yangtang/ Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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247: Why Quantum-Ready and Bridgeless Tech is the Future: Kevin on Building Layer 1X 39:13

לפני 7 weeks39:13

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Kevin from Layer 1X joins Sam Kamani to discuss how they’re building a quantum-resistant, bridgeless blockchain that enables secure cross-chain swaps, multi-chain token issuance, and zero-gas fee transactions. Kevin also shares insights from his PhD in blockchain and quantum computing, and why he believes most of Web3 is unprepared for the quantum era. If you're building in DeFi, infrastructure, or cross-chain protocols, this one's a must-listen. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Introduction: Sam introduces Kevin and the episode’s focus on Layer 1X, quantum computing, interoperability, and cross-chain infrastructure. [00:01:00] Kevin’s Background: Kevin shares how he entered Web3 in 2019, built a rewards platform, and began exploring quantum and blockchain through a PhD. [00:03:00] What Layer 1X Does: Layer 1X aims to enable bridgeless interoperability, empower developers, and offer quantum-resistant infrastructure. [00:05:00] Quantum Threats to Blockchain: Kevin explains quantum threats to cryptography and how error correction in quantum computing could make current blockchains vulnerable. [00:07:00] Blockchain Upgrades for Quantum Safety: Can Bitcoin or Ethereum become quantum-resistant? Kevin shares thoughts on protocol-level upgrades. [00:11:00] Why Build a New L1?: Kevin explains why Layer 1X had to be its own L1 — to control cross-chain validation, optimize gas, and integrate quantum resistance from the start. [00:15:00] Beyond the Chain: Multi-Chain Rollups and Use Cases: A look at how Layer 1X enables multi-chain rollups, composability, and better use of underutilized chains. [00:17:30] Use Case - Gaming & Identity: Kevin shares examples of how game assets and user tokens can function across multiple chains with Layer 1X. [00:20:00] Liquidity Abstraction & DeFi Fragmentation: How Layer 1X is solving one of DeFi’s biggest problems — fragmented liquidity across chains. [00:24:00] Growth & Campaigns: Kevin discusses their successful “Swapathon” and upcoming campaign making cross-chain swaps gasless and free. [00:27:00] Revenue Model & Incentives: How Layer 1X is already generating revenue through cross-chain fees, NFTs, and tokenomics innovation. [00:30:00] Release Pool Model: An anti-dump mechanism allowing token distribution based on market demand and long-term health. [00:32:00] Web3 Blindspots: Kevin argues Web3 projects are too focused on token price and not enough on sustainable revenue or infrastructure. [00:35:00] Trends for 2025: More projects will go multichain, off-chain services will go on-chain, and awareness of quantum resistance will grow. [00:37:00] Funding & Next Steps: Layer 1X is raising $25M to scale adoption and expand its quantum-resilient protocol stack. [00:38:30] Closing: Sam recaps the value Layer 1X brings to the Web3 space and thanks Kevin for sharing his journey. Connect https://l1xapp.com/ https://l1xapp.com/l1x-foundation https://www.linkedin.com/company/layer-one-x/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/thekevincoutinho/ https://x.com/LayerOneX https://x.com/thekevcoutinho Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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246: Securing the Mempool: Loring Harkness on Shutter Network’s War Against MEV Attacks 30:00

לפני 7 weeks30:00

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Can encryption make Ethereum more fair? In this episode, I speak with Loring Harkness , the ecosystem lead at Shutter Network , about a crucial — and often ignored — issue: malicious MEV. Loring explains how MEV bots extract value from unsuspecting users through front-running and sandwich attacks — and how Shutter uses threshold encryption to stop it. We talk about encrypted mempools, the recent whitepaper proposing encrypted mempools for Ethereum, and how commit-and-reveal encryption is already protecting DAOs, auctions, and bounties via Shutter’s API. Loring also shares his journey from building financial inclusion tools in Myanmar to becoming a passionate advocate for privacy and credible neutrality in Web3. Whether you're building a dApp, trading onchain, or want a fairer Ethereum — this episode is for you. Key Timestamps [00:00:00] Intro: Sam introduces Loring Harkness and the mission behind Shutter Network [00:01:00] Origin Story: How a coup in Myanmar inspired Loring’s pivot from TradFi to Web3 [00:04:00] What is Shutter?: Commit-reveal threshold encryption explained [00:06:00] Understanding MEV: How front-running and sandwich attacks work [00:08:00] Shielded Trading: How Shutter encrypts transactions to blind MEV bots [00:10:00] Integrations: Shielded trading on Gnosis and plans for Ethereum mainnet [00:11:00] The Cost of MEV: Over $1.3B lost to MEV since 2020 [00:12:00] Ethereum Whitepaper: How Shutter’s proposal was received [00:14:00] The Shutter API: Making commit-reveal encryption accessible to dApps [00:16:00] Game Theory: Loring’s live demo using rock-paper-scissors [00:20:00] Scaling Up: How Shutter supports many use cases and transactions [00:23:00] Real-World Adoption: Shielded voting on Snapshot and Paddle Battle auctions [00:25:00] The Real Threat: Why Ethereum must align with its own values [00:27:00] Community Ask: Why users and developers must demand fairness [00:29:00] Wrap-up: Links and next steps for integrating Shutter Network Connect https://www.shutter.network/ https://x.com/ShutterNetwork https://x.com/LoringHarkness https://www.linkedin.com/in/loringharkness/ Disclaimer Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend. Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/…

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