Building user search with React Server Components

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Cloud Realities

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Exploring the practical and exciting alternate realities that can be unleashed through cloud driven transformation and cloud native living and working. Each episode, our hosts Dave, Esmee & Rob talk to Cloud leaders and practitioners to understand how previously untapped business value can be released, how to deal with the challenges and risks that come with bold ventures and how does human experience factor into all of this? They cover Intelligent Industry, Customer Experience, Sustainability, AI, Data and Insight, Cyber, Cost, Leadership, Talent and, of course, Tech. Together, Dave, Esmee & Rob have over 80 years of cloud and transformation experience and act as our guides though a new reality each week. Web - https://www.capgemini.com/insights/research-library/cloud-realities-podcast/ Email - Podcasts.cor@capgemini.com

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Ryan talks about a demo he built in Next.js 13 with React Server Components. He explains how RSC driven by the URL eliminated client-side states, how he used React 18 Transitions to enhance the UI, and how he was able to fine-tune the experience differently for the initial render vs. subsequent client-side navigations.

Topics include:

0:00 - Intro
1:37 - Overview of Ryan’s user search page
14:06 - React 18 Transitions and how RSC eliminates client states
28:25 - How to change the UX for initial server navigations vs. in-app client navigations while still having one entry point for your data
37:01 - Why Next.js 13 encourages you to learn about the Suspense and Transition primitives
43:33 - What would a simple boilerplate for RSC look like?
49:18 - Do the benefits of backends-as-a-service go away with RSC?

Links:

Ryan’s demo on Twitter

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Building user search with React Server Components

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Topics include:

0:00 - Intro
1:37 - Overview of Ryan’s user search page
14:06 - React 18 Transitions and how RSC eliminates client states
28:25 - How to change the UX for initial server navigations vs. in-app client navigations while still having one entry point for your data
37:01 - Why Next.js 13 encourages you to learn about the Suspense and Transition primitives
43:33 - What would a simple boilerplate for RSC look like?
49:18 - Do the benefits of backends-as-a-service go away with RSC?

Links:

Ryan’s demo on Twitter

201 פרקים

#Technology #Web #Ember #Software #Development #Design #Web Development #Tech #Software Development #Frontend #Ryan Toronto #Sam Selikoff #JavaScript #Emberjs

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