Why Is Deeper Learning Essential in an Age of Distraction? | Tony Wagner and Ulrik Christensen

Getting Smart Podcast

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Dr. Tony Wagner and Dr. Ulrik Christensen to dive into their new book, Mastery: Why Deeper Learning is Essential in the Age of Distraction. Together, they unpack the concept of mastery learning, why it matters in today's rapidly changing world, and how it connects to deeper learning and student agency. The conversation highlights innovative approaches to education, real-world examples from schools like Red Bridge and Olin College, and the critical need to foster intrinsic motivation and lifelong learning skills. Whether you're an educator, policymaker, or passionate about the future of learning, this is a must-listen episode!

Outline

• (00:00) Introduction to Mastery Learning
• (11:10) The Changing Nature of Work and Learning
• (16:33) Assessment and Curriculum Changes
• (21:27) Early Education and Student Agency
• (26:58) Team-Based Learning and Real-World Applications
• (31:54) Scaling and Implementation

Links

• Read the full blog here
• Watch the full video here
• Ulrik Christensen LinkedIn
• Tony Wagner LinkedIn
• Podcast: Virginia Superintendent James Lane on Unleashing Innovation
• How to Prepare Learners for an Uncertain Future: A Conversation with Dr. Tony Wagner
• Book Review: Creating Innovators