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JS Party: JavaScript, CSS, Web Development

Deno creator Ryan Dahl goes one-on-one with Jerod to discuss their new npm support, why he’s so excited about JavaScript containers, Deno Deploy’s present & future, what he thinks about alternative runtimes like Bun, WinterCG, how Wasm fits into the story & more!

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Featuring:

• Ryan Dahl – GitHub, Website
• Jerod Santo – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn

Show Notes:

• Ryan on The Changelog #443
• Deno 1.28 announcement
• JavaScript ShadowRealms
• JavaScript Containers
• WinterCG

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

פרקים

1. Opener (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Sentry (00:00:32)

https://sentry.io/demo/sandbox/

3. It's party time, y'all! (00:01:11)

4. Welcoming Ryan (00:02:01)

https://changelog.fm/443

5. Deno's 1.3 million "new" packages (00:02:44)

https://deno.com/blog/v1.28

6. Pragmatism vs idealism in decision making (00:05:14)

7. How Deno added npm support (00:07:23)

8. How npm with Deno is easier (00:08:09)

9. How npm with Deno is safer (00:11:12)

10. npm package compatibility concerns (00:14:27)

11. Sponsor: Sourcegraph (00:17:10)

https://info.sourcegraph.com/changelog

12. Why Ryan is excited about JS containers (00:19:45)

https://tinyclouds.org/javascript_containers

13. It's Cloudflare "vs" Deno (00:25:48)

14. Deno Deploy's infrastructure (00:26:40)

15. Cold start performance goals (00:28:07)

16. What is WinterCG? (00:29:24)

https://wintercg.org

17. Ryan's thoughts on Bun (00:31:02)

18. Does Deno unlock new kinds of apps? (00:35:21)

19. Sponsor: Lolo Code (00:36:48)

https://www.lolo.co/jsparty

20. How Wasm fits in to the story (00:39:01)

21. Deno Deploy's ideal customer (00:41:09)

22. Any update on Deno's db product? (00:45:46)

23. How close is Deno to Ryan's goals? (00:47:21)

24. On Ryan's longevity in the industry (00:48:59)

25. What's coming soon to Deno? (00:50:20)

26. Wrapping up! (00:51:36)

27. Outro (00:52:00)