The spicy React debate show 🌶️

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We’re back with another spicy YepNope debate! This time, Amelia and KBall are arguing that there’s real value to (continue) using React in 2022, while Amal and special guest (and author of the post which stemmed the whole debate) Josh Collinsworth argue that React’s time leading innovation has passed. Of course, the stance each panelist is taking is assigned ahead of time. Is that how they really feel? Tune in and find out!

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Featuring:

• Josh Collinsworth – Twitter, GitHub, Website
• Nick Nisi – Twitter, GitHub, Website
• Amal Hussein – Twitter, GitHub
• Amelia Wattenberger – Twitter, GitHub, Website
• Kevin Ball – Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website

Show Notes:

• The self-fulfilling prophecy of React
• React
• Svelte
• Vue
• Angular
• Nick’s spicy initial take on React at JS Conf 2013
• Svelte Summit
• 🐴 RxJS. lol. Not a lot to back it up, but okay.

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Opener
(00:29) - Sponsor: Square
(01:13) - Intro
(02:03) - A hoy hoy!
(04:07) - The setup
(08:03) - Josh's opener
(10:10) - KBall's opener
(12:50) - Amal's opener
(15:04) - Amelia's opener
(16:57) - A (musical) Remix
(18:22) - Sponsor: Sentry
(21:12) - Speaking of hot takes...
(22:22) - KBall calls out
(23:33) - Amal rebuts
(26:04) - Amelia responds
(28:14) - Josh drops hot takes
(32:28) - A new debate erupts
(37:54) - Closing statements
(41:22) - Sponsor: Fly.io
(43:17) - Sponsor: Sourcegraph
(44:47) - Let's get real
(47:15) - TypeScript talk (why?!)
(53:37) - The framework hype cycle
(55:12) - The framework org structure
(59:52) - How could React save itself?
(1:01:26) - A bye bye!
(1:01:54) - Outro