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033 | Agnieszka Janarek of Tromplo on errorless learning, (lack of) perfectionism and resilience in both humans and dogs
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This episode is for you if you identify as a perfectionist. Simply talking with Aga, the short version for Agnieszka about the concept of errorless learning has given me another way to look at perfectionism and how it can (often but not always) be unhelpful.
Aga talks about training behaviors to fluency which is different from perfection, and about the benefits of playing by someone else's rules now and then, just to get you out of your comfort zone.
She will have you completely rethink the idea of "just one more repetition" and "ending on a win".
Not just that. What about extinction and frustration? Do we need frustration or can we skip it?
Aga also blew my mind by giving me a way of looking at resilience completely differently. What if resilience, the ability to bounce back, isn't an innate trait? What if it simply amounts to having a big enough skillset to be able to handle errors? And since skills can be taught, what if you could teach resilience? Errorlessly? With minimal frustration?
How does this apply to humans?
How does she apply it in her personal life and her business?
And of course, we chat about Agnieszka's new book, the Animal Trainer's Comprehensive Handbook.
Listen to this episode multiple times. It's packed with gems!
Links:
Tromplo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tromplo/
Agnieszka's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/agnieszkajanarektrainer/
The Tromplo website: https://tromplo.com/
The link to the new book, the Animal Trainer's Comprehensive Handbook: https://tromplo.com/product/animal-trainers-comprehensive-handbook-by-agnieszka-janarek/
Also mentioned:
Dr. Susan Friedman: https://www.behaviorworks.org/
Ken Ramirez: https://www.kenramireztraining.com/
Kay Laurence: https://www.learningaboutdogs.com/
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