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Episode #118 R.P. Shottenkirk speak in Prague at Jilska 14 with Victoria about art, peacemaking, and God
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תוכן מסופק על ידי Dena Shottenkirk. כל תוכן הפודקאסטים כולל פרקים, גרפיקה ותיאורי פודקאסטים מועלים ומסופקים ישירות על ידי Dena Shottenkirk או שותף פלטפורמת הפודקאסט שלהם. אם אתה מאמין שמישהו משתמש ביצירה שלך המוגנת בזכויות יוצרים ללא רשותך, אתה יכול לעקוב אחר התהליך המתואר כאן https://he.player.fm/legal.
Timestamps:
- 00:10: Introductions with Victoria
- 01:50: What does Art do for people? What's the point? Opening a door to philosophy/psychology. Sharing experiences between nations perhaps.
- 03:55: Art starts in a place, in a culture and is a representation of that. Art spreading allows movement from culture to culture. A transference of knowledge. But now, Art is different than it used to be
- 07:25: American Art, German Art. Do nationalistic identities of Art still exist? Globalization's impact on Art. Peacemaking might not make so much sense if the Art is all the same.
- 09:45: Western Art and the use of non-Western cultures. Is Art universally communicative but in a not-so-good way?
- 12:45: Rootless individuals, if that's true, what function does Art still have? Where do we go from here? Should we pivot inwards toward traditions?
- 16:00: Art as a marketplace. Perhaps that shouldn't be the goal. Humanist over mercantile goals.
- 17:00: Religion/Art, do humans have the capacity/responsibility to create in an analogous way to God?
פרקים
1. Episode #118 R.P. Shottenkirk speak in Prague at Jilska 14 with Victoria about art, peacemaking, and God (00:00:00)
2. Introductions with Victoria (00:00:10)
3. What does Art do for people? What's the point? Opening a door to philosophy/psychology. Sharing experiences between nations perhaps. (00:01:50)
4. Art starts in a place, in a culture and is a representation of that. Art spreading allows movement from culture to culture. A transference of knowledge. But now, Art is different than it used to be (00:03:55)
5. American Art, German Art. Do nationalistic identities of Art still exist? Globalization's impact on Art. Peacemaking might not make so much sense if the Art is all the same. (00:07:25)
6. Western Art and the use of non-Western cultures. Is Art universally communicative but in a not-so-good way? (00:09:45)
7. Rootless individuals, if that's true, what function does Art still have? Where do we go from here? Should we pivot inwards toward traditions? (00:12:45)
8. Art as a marketplace. Perhaps that shouldn't be the goal. Humanist over mercantile goals. (00:16:00)
9. Religion/Art, do humans have the capacity/responsibility to create in an analogous way to God? (00:17:00)
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Manage episode 393336856 series 2780951
תוכן מסופק על ידי Dena Shottenkirk. כל תוכן הפודקאסטים כולל פרקים, גרפיקה ותיאורי פודקאסטים מועלים ומסופקים ישירות על ידי Dena Shottenkirk או שותף פלטפורמת הפודקאסט שלהם. אם אתה מאמין שמישהו משתמש ביצירה שלך המוגנת בזכויות יוצרים ללא רשותך, אתה יכול לעקוב אחר התהליך המתואר כאן https://he.player.fm/legal.
Timestamps:
- 00:10: Introductions with Victoria
- 01:50: What does Art do for people? What's the point? Opening a door to philosophy/psychology. Sharing experiences between nations perhaps.
- 03:55: Art starts in a place, in a culture and is a representation of that. Art spreading allows movement from culture to culture. A transference of knowledge. But now, Art is different than it used to be
- 07:25: American Art, German Art. Do nationalistic identities of Art still exist? Globalization's impact on Art. Peacemaking might not make so much sense if the Art is all the same.
- 09:45: Western Art and the use of non-Western cultures. Is Art universally communicative but in a not-so-good way?
- 12:45: Rootless individuals, if that's true, what function does Art still have? Where do we go from here? Should we pivot inwards toward traditions?
- 16:00: Art as a marketplace. Perhaps that shouldn't be the goal. Humanist over mercantile goals.
- 17:00: Religion/Art, do humans have the capacity/responsibility to create in an analogous way to God?
פרקים
1. Episode #118 R.P. Shottenkirk speak in Prague at Jilska 14 with Victoria about art, peacemaking, and God (00:00:00)
2. Introductions with Victoria (00:00:10)
3. What does Art do for people? What's the point? Opening a door to philosophy/psychology. Sharing experiences between nations perhaps. (00:01:50)
4. Art starts in a place, in a culture and is a representation of that. Art spreading allows movement from culture to culture. A transference of knowledge. But now, Art is different than it used to be (00:03:55)
5. American Art, German Art. Do nationalistic identities of Art still exist? Globalization's impact on Art. Peacemaking might not make so much sense if the Art is all the same. (00:07:25)
6. Western Art and the use of non-Western cultures. Is Art universally communicative but in a not-so-good way? (00:09:45)
7. Rootless individuals, if that's true, what function does Art still have? Where do we go from here? Should we pivot inwards toward traditions? (00:12:45)
8. Art as a marketplace. Perhaps that shouldn't be the goal. Humanist over mercantile goals. (00:16:00)
9. Religion/Art, do humans have the capacity/responsibility to create in an analogous way to God? (00:17:00)
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1 Episode #139: Resident Philosopher Dena Shottenkirk talks with art critic Sean Tatol about power, Wittgenstein, & looking at art 50:17
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Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 02:20: Power as it relates to art criticism. Kant, Wittgenstein, and the grounds of objectivity 05:50: The crisis of criticism. Speculative investment in the art world. 11:00: Standards, economic interests, and changing the way we look at art 13:00: The economic pressure to succeed 14:00: The Art World and building thought together 15:00: Culture vs Economics. The value of "frivolity" 19:15: The resuscitation of "looking." Dedication to Art, despite the margins 26:30: The fundamentals of creativity: Understanding the scope of the present and crafting difference 29:00: False repetition as a consequence of derivative art. 33:00: The desire for novelty 40:30: Perceiving the mind of the creator and yourself 45:45: The faith in your own intuition. The ability to judge goes beyond Art Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 00:45: Where there is power, there's abuse. 03:05: Imbalance of power is inevitable. If we don't share power, we hoard it 04:05: Can power ever be positive? To take action, we need power. It has the capacity to create good, but without any checks and balances, it goes too far 06:45: Institutional power as a result of individual power. We willingly give up power to the institution 09:05: How do we get the power back? Only collectively, large scale efforts can shift the power balance 12:00: January 6th as a display of power, even if it's misguided 14:30: How can we utilize power to make positive strides of change? 17:15: Power-seekers aren't those who should have it. Perverse incentives 20:30: Randomization as a potential solution to power hoarding 21:15: How do we account for lack of knowledge in the randomization scenario? Town halls, bureaucracy, and trial and error 24:00: Advisors as the lynchpins of power Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 00:35: Organizing people and how it relates to power 02:05: How do we apply knowledge of Foucault to the real world? 03:55: Are people hesitant or afraid to use their power? 05:10: There's something in the air, people are aware of power 07:20: Personal, individualized power. Being an actor in the world 10:00: Cynicism on the rise. When promises aren't kept, people burn out 11:30: The pursuit of self-interest, computer science vs. building a new disruptive route 14:30: One slip and you're done, losing purpose and stability. What is there to lose vs. cynical depression 16:45: The state form of power. Capitalizing on people's fears 20:00: The experiences of protesting, solidarity vs. winning 22:30: MLK as good, Malcolm X as bad. The idolization of peaceful protest 25:45: To change power structures, we organize and develop leadership, the only way to build something big is to start one-on-one Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 00:40: Power is and has been based on violence 02:15: How do we define violence as it relates to power? Is it purely physical? 03:10: Power as better or worse, not necessarily good 04:40: The Philosopher King in the structure of power 06:00: Can power manifest in a non-violent form? 08:30: January 6th and the role of violence to change power structures 10:00: The maintenance of power utilizes violence 12:20: Is it always bad to utilize the threat of violence to maintain power? 16:00: Power structures give groups greater freedom. The capacity to act is tied to power 21:10: Why do the little things matter for "big" people? When power scales, you can't take actions with impunity 25:00: When violence goes away, are we bound to the structures of power? What are the checks to power? Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 00:30: What do we think about power? Power comes in many forms, but not everyone is interested in it 02:40: Power plays a role in social dynamics. Cultivating a sense of power 03:50: Power is situational. Perspective drives perceptions of power 05:25: Power is a comfortable place to be. Work, family, and power dynamics 07:00: Power on the macro scale. Lack of power on an individual level leads us to ignore it 09:05: Where do the relations of power come from? A complex network of variables with microscopic influences 11:45: Overwhelmed by powers we cannot control. What can we do in light of that? 15:10: The minor things matter. How we treat people becomes practice and changes us 17:00: The Romance/Desperation of rural Saskatchewan 19:00: Being able to influence your surroundings and "being in the world.' The human thrill of the new Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…

1 Episode #133 R.P. Tyler Olds talks with talkPOPc participant Maggie about philosophy, power, and justice 19:50
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Timestamps: 00:10 Introductions 01:00 Thoughts on Philosophy, ethics as a branch of Philosophy 02:05 Concern over monetary power, the world our children will inherit 03:05 Meritocracy, intelligence, and kindness. The Republic and the philosopher kings and access to virtuous rearing 04:15 Exploring old ideas, but leaving room for criticism. We don't live in Ancient Greece 05:30 What happens to those without power? In an ideal society, we don't have folks without power 06:15 Defining power, thinking about money and the physical world // UBI, housing as a basic right and the power to live freely 08:25 Access to new technologies for a just society, but how do we enforce equity we write into law? A central court system? 09:35 Suspicion of life-time appointments. Engaged citizenry requires the free-time and space to own our citizenship 11:40 Strengthening power by taking it from others. Is power an infinite resource, or is it a zero-sum game? 14:30 Elie Wiesel and refusal. We can refuse to grant power to others 17:50 Willpower as an internally derived force vs social power Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…

1 Episode #132 R.P. Tyler Olds talks with talkPOPc participant Kendall about philosophy, power, and freedom 22:10
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Timestamps: 00:10 Introductions 01:10 Philosophy and the Lives and Legacies of 20 Unsung Women Who Contributed to Philosophy 02:30 What is the nature of power? How does it work in society? Power exists in every interaction 03:45 How is power operating in marriage vs the workplace vs government? Consent and systemic control 04:55 Leading and following, a natural start to power vs a social invention 06:25 How should we think of power in the world? Idealistically, we have a say in it 08:20 Have we consented to the constitution by being born into this country? Citizenship and consent, purely by existing here 09:45 Institutional power gives us the freedom to fight against it, the right to rebel and its link to ego 12:20 "I didn't ask to be born!" and the obligations to live up to your role in society 14:30 If power pops up inevitably, should the goal be libertarian freedom? 16:15 Retaining the feeling of freedom, ultimate freedom, the power to stop people 19:45 What if everyone stopped jobs they didn't like? Waste management as an exploration of freedom Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…

1 Episode #131 R.P. Tyler Olds talks with talkPOPc participants Jenn and Katherin about social power, power structures, and relationships 24:12
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Timestamps: 00:10 Intros 01:10 What do we think when we hear "Philosophy? // Interested bystanders 02:00 The nature of power in society // The power of common connection 03:00 Power dynamics as an inevitability, how is power negotiated? Power can be taken away or moved around 04:00 Should we want power to be a stationary concept, should it remain dynamic? 05:05 What would count as the optimal form of power? How should power be distributed in society? 06:35 Small scale: Figuring out how to balance power in individualistic relationships. Can we distribute power evenly? 07:50 Family, can we make the power dynamics explicit? Leveraging power underneath the surface 09:25 Do we explicitly name power in order to deal with it and navigate? 10:55 Explicit power structure, feeling empowered when power is tangible 13:20 What kinds of structures do we want to make? We don't have to replicate what we already know 15:30 The necessity of will and means for power 16:45 Summoning forth the will to enact power over the world, or the right place, right time 18:50 The will to fight all the time. Allowing yourself to play a role in the structure of power 22:00 Changing society is changing our understanding of loving each other Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…

1 Episode #130 R.P. Tyler Olds talks with talkPOPc participant Christopher about social power, community dynamics, and obligation 25:59
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Timestamps: 00:10 intros 01:20 setting the stage and outfit talk 01:55 What is philosophy? The thought about thought // Power is ability, the ability to do things and influence 03:15 Power and influence, the connection to trust. Influence is capital 04:40 The power that worries us, the things out of our control. But is power control, or is it influence? 05:55 Social power and raw radical power, the power of ideas 08:00 Policy vs culture as they relate to power 09:10 Dictatorial influence and cult of personality 11:25 Tapping into conservative rage, the idea of America and change 12:40 Confidence that shifts towards hatred as an example of power 13:40 Positive power in the community, bodega comedy that brings Atlantic Avenue together 15:15 How should we measure power? Is it based on the end effects? 16:10 Negative power as a "what could happen?" vs Positive power and seeing the beauty 17:00 Does everyone have access to power as influence? If you have a role in society, you have power 18:20 The power of infants, powerful and tiny tyrants, intention is not 100% necessary 19:20 Power vs Obligation. Do others have power over us, or are we obligated to care for someone? 21:30 When power is deemed unworthy, we decide to fight against it 22:45 Babies are the in-between of influence and nature, but is intention necessary? Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…

1 Episode #129 R.P. Alex Mendez talks with talkPOPc participant Noor about censorship,free speech, and Gaza conflict 22:35
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1:00 They discuss how government censorship, particularly in banning books, restricts access to knowledge and different perspectives, questioning why the government has the authority to control what information people can access or contemplate. 5:00 Noor reflects on her opinion about the situation in the Middle East, acknowledging that her views are largely shaped by her upbringing in a Muslim household. They emphasize the impact of one's upbringing and environment on their perspective. 8:00 They express admiration for opinionated individuals, highlighting the unique aspect of freedom of speech that allows people to express opinions even if they are poorly informed. 12:00 They reflect on the importance of approaching discussions with a rational yet empathetic mindset, suggesting that emotions can be channeled into empathy. 15:00 They discuss the importance of free speech in society, emphasizing how it allows for collective interpretation and the exploration of diverse ideas. They draw parallels to dystopian novels like "1984," where control over speech leads to control over truth. 18:00 They discuss the issue of generalization and its impact on hate crimes and highlight how generalizations about certain groups lead to unfair blame and prejudice against entire communities. 20:00 They emphasize the importance of courage in freely expressing ideas and opinions, even if they may be wrong, and encourage a willingness to change one's mind. Alex suggests that being wrong is acceptable and that the goal is to reach a consensus or understanding, echoing themes of philosophical inquiry into truth. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…

1 Episode #128 R.P. Alex Mendez talks with talkPOPc participants Javon and Brodin about censorship, free speech and social media 35:08
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2:00 They reflect on the notion of free speech in their personal life, noting that as Americans, they feel relatively unrestricted in their ability to express themselves. While they believe in the importance of free speech, they emphasize the need for understanding the potential repercussions of one's words. 5:00 They highlight the issue of entitlement regarding free speech, particularly noting that disenfranchised communities and working-class individuals, especially people of color, often understand the consequences of their speech. 7:00 They discuss John Stuart Mill's perspective on free speech, highlighting its virtues as outlined in Professor Schaun-Kirk's book. Alex questions whether these virtues of free speech remain intact when negative consequences, whether legal or social, are imposed on individuals expressing their opinions. 10:00 They discuss how anti-capitalist sentiments may face legal repercussions, citing historical examples like the Red Scare. While acknowledging the potential harm of hate speech, they differentiate between harmful speech aimed at individuals and discourse challenging societal systems. 12:00 They the permanence of statements made on the internet, using Kanye West as an example of someone whose controversial remarks, particularly those deemed anti-Semitic, have lasting consequences on his reputation. 15:00 They discuss the complexities of social consequences resulting from freedom of speech, particularly in political discourse. While acknowledging the straightforward cases where individuals may choose to leave relationships due to racist beliefs or behavior, they express interest in instances where political disagreements lead to exclusion or shunning. 18:00 They discuss the disparity between individuals' abilities to express themselves freely based on their social context. They suggest that while legal consequences for hate speech may be minimal, social repercussions can be significant, raising questions about the balance between allowing free expression and preventing harm caused by bullying or hate speech. 22:00 They discuss the limitations of physical spaces for exchanging ideas, noting that public places like libraries often have restrictions. Also, they emphasize how individuals' exposure to different viewpoints online is influenced by algorithms, leading to a skewed understanding of free speech. 26:00 Alex introduces philosopher Miranda Fricker's concept of epistemic injustice, which focuses on instances where injustices occur in how individuals are perceived as credible knowers or sources of knowledge. They explain that biases, whether conscious or unconscious, can lead people to view others as not credible sources of information based on their opposing viewpoints. 30:00 They discuss the impact of social media and the internet on the dynamics of free speech, particularly among younger people. They highlight the potential limitations of free speech in online environments, questioning whether it fosters the same virtues as face-to-face conversations. 33:00 They express concern about the divisive nature of American society, where individuals are often pitted against each other rather than working together to solve common problems. They advocate for a shift in societal mindset towards collaboration and problem-solving as a team, rather than viewing others as adversaries. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…

1 Episode #127 R.P. Alex Mendez talks with talkPOPc participant Noah about censorship, free speech and cancel culture 32:49
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1:00 The conversation begins with a focus on free speech and censorship, prompting them to share their thoughts on whether these concepts are prevalent in society. 5:00 They discuss the potential social consequences of expressing differing political views, particularly in the context of the 2016 presidential election. 8:00 They discuss the concept of echo chambers in politics and social media, where individuals tend to surround themselves with like-minded individuals, reinforcing their own beliefs and ignoring opposing viewpoints. 12:00 They explore the multifaceted nature of the conversation surrounding free speech, suggesting that it extends beyond just legal and moral rights to encompass social dynamics as well. 14:00 They discuss how differing opinions, regardless of political affiliation, can lead to further division among people, and how this can inhibit open communication of ideas. 16:00 They raise questions about whether our conception of free speech should adapt to different social contexts, noting that discussions about free speech often yield varied conclusions depending on the specific examples and social contexts considered. 20:00 They discuss the limitations of the Socratic method in addressing the persistence of falsehoods and misconceptions over time. Alex suggests that societal beliefs may evolve through ongoing discourse and debate, leading to collective agreement on certain truths over time. 24:00 They discuss the consequences of censorship -- the phenomenon of cancel culture, noting its evolution from holding individuals accountable to resembling the Salem witch trials, where minor actions could lead to a disproportionate backlash on social media. 28:00 They explore the peculiar phenomenon of cancel culture, highlighting its dual nature. Alex questions the ethical implications of cancel culture and reflects on its damaging effects despite its origins in free speech. 30:00 They discuss the concept of cancel culture as a form of social censorship rather than a legal one. Alex argues that cancel culture often denies individuals the opportunity to defend themselves or redeem their actions, thus hindering their ability to speak freely and engage in meaningful dialogue. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…

1 Episode #126 R.P. Dena talks with talkPOPc participant Emily about censorship, art, and free speech 32:03
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2:00 They explore the uncertainty surrounding censorship and the understanding of the First Amendment. 5:00 They acknowledge that artists often express political views through their work and note differences in how art is supported in different countries, such as Germany's grants for techno clubs. The conversation touches on the challenges faced by artists in discussing sensitive topics like Palestine and Israel within certain cultural contexts. 8:00 They discuss the distinction between government actions that limit speech and actual censorship. The conversation contrasts the situation in the United States, where artists have more independence from state support, with that in Germany, where state support plays a larger role. 12:00 They discuss the complexities surrounding free speech in private establishments, particularly in the context of DJs expressing political views regarding Palestine and Israel. The conversation raises questions about the boundaries of free speech in private spaces versus public areas, with a specific focus on where the First Amendment applies. 15:00 They discuss the nuanced nature of free speech and the distinction between protected speech and speech that incites violence. While speech is generally considered a safe exchange of ideas, there are instances where speech can transition into action and potentially lead to violence, which is when it becomes criminalized. 18:00 They discuss the level of respect for free speech and diverse viewpoints at Brooklyn College. While there's room for improvement in considering opposing viewpoints, they believe that people generally maintain politeness and refrain from being confrontational, though there's a call for a deeper understanding of the other side's perspectives. 22:00 Dena emphasizes the importance of actively listening to opposing viewpoints, drawing on John Stuart Mill's perspective. Mill suggests that when engaging with the other side, three outcomes are possible: realizing one's own mistake, finding a compromise, or affirming one's own beliefs. 25:00 They reflect on the changing nature of libraries, expressing nostalgia for the days when they were spaces of focused learning and discovery. They lament the shift towards digital devices, noting how people are now absorbed in their own worlds rather than engaging with the richness of books. 28:00 The conversation reflects on the importance of understanding and engaging with people from different perspectives, even if they hold opposing political beliefs. They highlight the significance of focused listening and practicing conversations as essential skills for fostering understanding and unity in society. 30:00 They suggest that engaging in conversations with others could be more beneficial than protesting or organizing, as it allows for meaningful dialogue rather than feeling like shouting into the void. And they express hope that their conversation may lead to further discussions and exchanges of ideas. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…

1 Episode #125 R.P. Dena talks with talkPOPc participant Joshua about art, expression, and censorship 24:26
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1:00 They discuss the significance of the arts in facilitating free speech and expression. 5:00 They delve into the complexities of humor and artistic expression in navigating sensitive topics. 8:00 They ponder the concept of censorship in theater, admitting uncertainty about its bounds as they haven't experienced it firsthand. However, they suggest that modern theater may offer more freedom for marginalized voices to share their stories. 10:00 They discuss how individuals edit the information they consume, choosing which ideas to allow themselves to engage with. This selective intake of information, influenced by the online dialogue regarding the validity of certain facts and perspectives, is seen as a form of censorship in the modern era. 13:00 Dena suggests that this lack of recognition of what it takes to acquire knowledge contributes to the difficulty in establishing facts. Despite these challenges, she finds value in engaging people in conversation to collate diverse opinions and perspectives on topics like censorship. 16:00 They highlight the value of collective engagement in fostering a sense of unity and collaboration, whether in a theatrical performance or an educational setting. 19:00 They draw parallels between engaging in conversation and sharing an experience in theater, both involving the idea of coming together to exchange viewpoints and connect on a deeper level. 22:00 They explore the difference between being involved in an experience versus merely observing it, and highlight the freedom and lack of defense associated with being a viewer rather than an active participant. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…

1 Episode #124 R.P. Dena talks with talkPOPc participant Malka about censorship and Gaza conflict 21:15
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1:00 They discuss a recent revisitation of a censorship project in light of challenges faced on American campuses. Malka encounters a family member who mentioned students leaving Brooklyn College due to feeling attacked during Palestinian demonstrations, highlighting the diversity of perspectives and experiences among students. 5:00 They discuss the lack of genuine listening and the prevalence of posturing and defensiveness in conversations, both among students and faculty. 10:00 They discuss the issue of feeling unsafe in discussions, particularly regarding tensions between different perspectives. 14:00 They discuss the balance between academic freedom and maintaining a safe learning environment. There's a consideration of where the line is drawn between free expression and feeling unsafe on campus, concerning CUNY's Henderson Rules. 16:00 They discuss the discomfort often associated with new ideas and the challenge of fostering open-mindedness in students. While acknowledging the importance of broadening perspectives and encouraging students to articulate diverse viewpoints, there's concern about the prevalence of self-censorship and entrenched beliefs. 19:00 There's recognition of the complexity of discussing sensitive topics, such as Israel and Gaza, in the classroom, which can trigger emotions and open discussions about other traumas, such as those experienced by black women. The conversation highlights the challenge of navigating discussions around various social issues and the need for sensitivity and inclusivity in classroom dialogue. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #119 Magdeburg Seminar (in German) 1:30:41
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1 Episode #118 R.P. Shottenkirk speak in Prague at Jilska 14 with Victoria about art, peacemaking, and God 22:50
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Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions with Victoria 01:50: What does Art do for people? What's the point? Opening a door to philosophy/psychology. Sharing experiences between nations perhaps. 03:55: Art starts in a place, in a culture and is a representation of that. Art spreading allows movement from culture to culture. A transference of knowledge. But now, Art is different than it used to be 07:25: American Art, German Art. Do nationalistic identities of Art still exist? Globalization's impact on Art. Peacemaking might not make so much sense if the Art is all the same. 09:45: Western Art and the use of non-Western cultures. Is Art universally communicative but in a not-so-good way? 12:45: Rootless individuals, if that's true, what function does Art still have? Where do we go from here? Should we pivot inwards toward traditions? 16:00: Art as a marketplace. Perhaps that shouldn't be the goal. Humanist over mercantile goals. 17:00: Religion/Art, do humans have the capacity/responsibility to create in an analogous way to God? Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #117: Resident Philosopher Vincent Peluce talks with talkPOPc participant Levi about censorship 1:13:44
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00 - 6:55 Vincent and Levi debate whether there are kinds of speech that one should censor. Levi argued that censorship should be avoided in general, not just of government speech but of social speech. After all, people are too sensitive to censorship to ask questions. Vincent acknowledged that censorship is a hard topic these days, citing neo-Nazi rhetoric as an example. 6:57 - 23:13 Vincent and Levi discuss the influence of social media. Vincent believes that social media is now international and even global, and everything happens very quickly. Levi agreed and believed that people in different social conditions would have different ideas, censorship cannot stop people from thinking but talking. He believes that what people need today is "the third space," a psychological term that means giving people space to change their minds and reject past ideas instead of always sticking to the ideas they had ten years ago. therefore, people need to slow down and focus, learn from real-life conversations rather than social media, and value feedback from real people rather than Twitter friends. 23:15 - 32:05 Levi mentioned his favorite ship theory, which is to gradually replace parts of the old ship and combine the replaced parts of the old ship into a new ship, so the old ship and the new ship may be difficult to identify but are never the same. He compared people to ships, and thoughts are parts, "After traveling around the world, we are the original ship, but it does not mean that all parts are the same. The key is how to update your thoughts, and behavior gives people the opportunity to change ideas." He likes how old Disney movies are mentioned at the beginning as being "not representative of today's culture" because they respect the original and separate it from today's values. 32:07 -61:40 Levi came up with the idea that people are reluctant to engage in conversation because it's unsafe to talk in some places, and humor is a great way to solve complex problems, just like Tom chasing Jerry can always make people laugh. Vincent agrees but thinks humor isn't the only way. Then they talked about why people like comedy characters, the possibility of the film Step Brothers remake, and why some comedy shows are so popular, all with unexpected parts and combinations in common. 61: 45- 73:44 Vincent summarized the content of this conversation and expressed his personal reflections: Expanding into new conversations is difficult but always rewarding in the end, and personal conversations often turn into larger conversations. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #116: R.P. Shottenkirk and J. L. Brandl speak at the Galerie 5020 in Salzburg, Austria on art as a tool for individual cognition and social cooperation 47:12
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00-2:08: Brandl speaks of the general topic of art as epistemology. He asks: What does this mean? It depends on how one defines epistemology; if epistemology is gaining knowledge, you can't interpret art as the study of gaining knowledge - it is not a simple predicate-identity sentence. But why not say that art is a tool for the study of cognition? 2:10- 2:47: Shottenkirk laughs and states that he's gotten to the soft underbelly of the problem quite fast! She notes, "I stole that phrase so long ago I forgot a long time ago...I stole it from Nelson Goodman...and I disagree with much that he said although I agree with this." I think it's a kind of epistemology. 2:50 - 4:00: Brandl notes that saying it is a kind of epistemology is quite different from his statement that art is a tool for epistemology. Shottenkirk says it is a kind of way of gaining knowledge of the world. But she admits that the phrase "a tool" is probably a more correct way. But then she rethinks that and says: if it is "a kind" that means it is one kind of species among many kinds of epistemologies. But if it is a tool then it is a way one gets to epistemology itself, right? 4:01 - 4:42: Brandl says, "No, a tool is an instrument that helps to achieve certain goals." So, what are the goals of epistemology? Ways of gaining knowledge. Then it is how art can be used to achieve the goals of epistemology. 4:44 - 5:25: Shottenkirk interjects that art is a kind of prybar - a tool that one uses to pry ourselves open and make ourselves vulnerable to other ways of looking at the world. Increasing our sensitivities, 5:26 - 7:35: Brandl says, yes, increasing our sensibility, giving us different interpretations. Shottenkirk agrees and discusses the role of low-level information. Peripheral vision sets the context for what we focus on, for example. Art is a sensory onslaught that allows us to practice the editing of perception. 7:38 - 11:35: But Brandl notes that we can also define epistemology as a tool. But now we have a tool for a tool! Here's a proposal: every tool you can use in different ways - put it to good use or bad use, etc. Shottenkirk agrees. She notes, as a way of socializing us, art makes us understand other people and work in consort with others, particularly within nationalities. This is culture. A way to build knowledge structures. 11:40 - 18: 20: Brandl says he is interested in the sociology aspects of epistemology, too. He Shottenkirk why she picked out (in the paintings in the exhibition) those four ways of accessing reality in the paintings (Hobbes (violence), Hildegaard von Bingen (transcendence), C.S. Peirce (analysis), Langer (the unconscious)) and then linked them to the philosophers. He asks, the way Susanne Langer picks out how art accesses reality is perhaps closest to you? He discusses other classifications by other writers. He and Shottenkirk discuss it. 18:27 - 24:00: Brandl switches to discuss Hobbes and states that he views Hobbes as "philosophical optimist". Hobbes was thinking, "we can fix it - we just need good institutions". But haven't we all lost confidence in that? Shottenkirk responds and refers to the Hobbes painting and the reference to violence and notes examples in all the arts that refer to danger/excitement. Brandl says what's the message here? He answers, "that's how we are and it won't go away and we are going to have to live with it." Shottenkirk agrees, and notes that art can't get us out of this (cruelty) but maybe it can expiate some of these tendencies. 24:01 - 30:57: Brandl notes that Shottenkirk had mentioned Brandl's paper "The Purposes of Descriptive Psychology", European Journal of Phil Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #123 Resident Philosopher J. L. Brandl talks with participant Bruendl vegh about philosophy in medicine (auf deutsch) 27:54
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The podcast highlights the presence of numerous philosophical questions within the medical field. R.P. Brandl and participant Bruendl vegh emphasize their interest in this intersection, noting their journey from contemplating medicine-related philosophical inquiries to their current involvement with the Philosopher's Anthology in Salzburg. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #122, Resident Philosopher J. L. Brandl and talkPOPc participant Ophia talk about philosophy, art, and sociology 18:12
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1:00 The conversation touches on the connection between philosophy and aesthetics, particularly how philosophers discuss art and define what constitutes a work of art. 4:00 They delve into the nuanced ways art and philosophy intersect and diverge in their approaches to reflection and understanding society. 6:30 They reference the work of philosopher Thomas Hobbes, known for his exploration of conflicts in society, to prompt a discussion on the role of art in addressing societal tensions. 8:00 Brandl suggests that while art can help some people overcome conflicts, others may find solace in different activities, such as sports. He provides background information on philosopher Thomas Hobbes, who believed that humans could find solutions to conflicts through societal arrangements but acknowledged that this optimistic view may not hold in contemporary society. 9:20 The conversation shifts to the application of philosophical ideas to music and whether music serves as an exception in addressing conflicts and discomfort. 11:30 They highlight the debate within musicology regarding the extent to which music reflects society but assert their belief that societal influences are present in all genres of music, including songs, symphonies, and chamber music. 14:00 They discuss the role of art in expressing feelings, particularly feelings about the state of society. Brandl posits that expressing feelings is a key means through which art contributes to philosophy and our comprehension of the world. 16:00 They discuss the subjectivity of interpreting artwork and the uniqueness of individual experiences. Ophia highlights Bingen's contribution to music, emphasizing her perspective as a woman, which brought a new dimension to the field. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #115: Dena Shottenkirk speaks with Viennese gallerist Christine König about literature and art at Salzburg5020 Gallery 34:40
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00- 1:30: Shottenkirk introduces the project. 1:30 - 3:05: König clarifies the definition of art to be broadly construed to mean culture at large, and Shottenkirk agrees. König then states that she doesn't really know why other people care about art though she personally cares for literature and for her specific gallery program. Art is like food: we need but we do not ask "do you care about food?" This is just part of our life. 3:05 - 4:28: Shottenkirk notes that every species care about food but we are the only species that cares about art. König says, "Yes, I think so, too, animals don't care about art." But people consume art. We like it and we need it like food. Shottenkirk agrees that there is a need, and then wonders what it is that we get out of it. König states that before she goes to bed she reads literature. "I live everything behind and enter another universe." 4:29 - 10:30: Shottenkirk says, "ok, let's go down that road". We are able to enter into someone else's perspective and that it is empathetic. She uses the example of a book by the Jamaican writer Claude McKay. König agrees that it is the goal of literature. And that brings us into others' worlds more than art. Shottenkirk asks why, and König says it's because it is something one does it alone, and that is something we need. 10:33 - 14:35: An audience member interjects and says, "Chekov says, 'art is the pain, not the doctor.' It means that Art doesn't have to bring solutions, it has to describe the problem." Other audience members add to this thought. Shottenkirk uses the example of McKay's description of having Trotsky say something racist and how that pain that McKay is, on a small scale, inside Shottenkirk's head now. But König disagrees, and says, "But maybe that not as pain but as knowledge." Shottenkirk agrees. And König says, "but it is a pleasure." 14:36 - 23:40: König notes that people do not read as much now. She notes an amazing book by Tolstoy "Aufverstehung". Shottenkirk then states that visual art does the same thing that you can get inside someone else's head. But König says, "I'm not so sure if you can compare them...you start reading...but you can start looking at the painting but you look at another painting, but with the book you must stay in the book for some time." She also notes that contemporary art requires prior knowledge of art. Shottenkirk agrees and asks if it true of literature. König says no. Shottenkirk says she has never heard anyone say that but it seems true, and sad. But König disagrees a bit stating that everything requires knowledge. 23:45 - : König shares a little about the origin of her daughter's name (whose birthday is today) and the literary origins of her names. König notes that music is a bit like literature as it is easy to "open the door" and enter in to. Yet, still, it requires some knowledge. For music and opera, "you have to tell them the story" and Shottenkirk questions whether that is in art. But König notes that there is in fact a story as it is how the artist came to this point. Shottenkirk agrees, and König states that she always challenges young artists how they are "adding a little piece to art history". It is important that "they all know what has been before." Shottenkirk adds that it is because we are building "social knowledge". This is why humans like art. We need to empathize in order to build knowledge. König agrees. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #114 R. P. Sascha Benjamin Fink speaks with several participants in Magdeburg, Germany 2022 (auf deutsch) 12:29
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1 Episode #113 R. P. Shottenkirk speaks with Philosopher Christopher Gauker @ 5020 Gallery, Salzburg, Austria 45:00
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00 -1:38: At the talkPOPc exhibition at the 5020 Gallery in Salzburg, Austria, August 2023, Shottenkirk asks Gauker about his theory of imagistic data and arguments against propositional content. 1:40 - 3:30: Gauker begins by saying that he is interested in imagistic content. People's capacity to solve problems by mental imagery has been neglected in philosophy. Philosophers have tended to think of cognition on the model of reasoning from propositions. But we often solves problems by means of mental imagery. He gives a example of this in solving a plumbing problem, and then the example of putting on one's jacket. But he's not sure if that fact can be used as a tool for understanding art. 3:50 - 4:52: Shottenkirk notes that in the plumbing example, we don't need words for these things but we understand it in context. In art, so much of what we experience is of low-level features and we don't have to have words for those low-level features. We understand things things contextually; is that plausible? 4:50 - 9:48: Gauker (who prefers the phrase “Gradable qualities” to low-level) gives several examples of how real-world and geometrical knowledge goes into understanding the data that is stimulating the retina, and we don't have words for many of those things. It may be that the appreciation of some kinds of arts that they induce this kind of mental activity and that we find this pleasurable. But he's still not sure if this kind of thinking introduces anything to understanding the visual arts. Often he is just finding interesting the geometrical shapes, etc. Or appreciating a battle scene, etc. 9:50 - 11:30: Shottenkirk notes that Gauker has named three different ways one can process work: 1) low-level, 2) depiction or the reference function 3) the narrative. Gauker responds that many people are interested in having an emotional reaction elicited, but he is not in it for that. Shottenkirk refers to problems with the word "emotion". 11:33 - 14:38: Gauker makes the important point that emotion can't be the point to art as that would mean that "we are always interested in ourselves". Shottenkirk adamantly agrees and says that what art does is pull someone else into our world as art gives a first person perspective of the artist. Guaker worries that this commits the viewer to understanding the intention of the artist. Shottenkirk partially disagrees; the meaning of the artwork is only partially constituted by the artist's intentions. 14:40 - 16:47: Gauker notes that much of meaning is today dependent on the larger artworld. There follows a back and forth debate about context and meaning and intention in art. 16:50 - 45:00: Gauker takes the conversation back to the idea of emotion. Something is tragic because it represents a scene that is tragic; the viewer doesn't have to experience that emotion...just recognize the emotion. Shottenkirk asks him if he can put together that example with the former example of the plumbing problem. He answer as follows: It's only because you've seen horses and horses move that allows you to understand what's going on in a battle scene picture. Shottenkirk then pushes again, and asks "to bring emotion into the plumbing example", and then says, "yes, I was watching for that expression that says 'there's no emotion in plumbing'!" She notes that there is pleasure knowing how plumbing is put together - the tactile pleasure. Texture is an important part of peripheral vision. Gauker hesitates, and says that a plumber can do it quite dispassionately. Shottenkirk retorts that there are little micro seconds of good/bad - it is never completely neutral. The conversation continues with them trying to locate the role of emotion in art. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #112: Resident Philosopher Dr. Sascha Benjamin Fink speaks (in German / auf Deutsch!) with Pauline Simon in Magdeburg, Germany 17:49
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talkPOPc auf Deutsch! talkPOPc "Art as Cognition" / Kunst als Denkform von Forum Gestaltung in Magdeburg. 0:08 Intro: "Hallo und herzlichen Willkommen hier in talkPOPC tent ich bin Sasha Fink und talkPOPc ist ein allgemeines talk und Performanz format von Dena Shottenkirk" / "Hi and welcome to the talkPOPc [tent] i am Sasha Fink and talkPOPc is a performance-talk format from Dena Shottenkirk" Thema: "Kunst als Denkform" Dr. Sascha Benjamin Fink im gespräch mit Pauline Simon: / Theme: Art as a Form of Thinking (Cogniton) Dr. Fink speaks in depth with Pauline Simon about this. Anstatt punkt: Thema: Ist Kunst ein Form zu denken? / Dr. Fink: So! Is Art then a form of thinking/cognition Ja-ein / Yes and no? 1. Kunst für ein verknüpftes: Emotionen - wie man definiert mann emotion und das Kognitive? / Art as a link: emotion. How does one define emotion in a cognitive sense... 2:06: Welche Rolle spielt Emotion in Kunst und künstlerisches Praxis? ...super abstrakte minimal arte Sachen - lasst dich auch emotional kalt? / What role does emotion play in art and in the artistic practice? ...super abstract minimal art stuff feels emotionally cold to me. How about you? ... Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #111 In Magdeburg, Germany: R.P. Fink talks about how cognitive processes of art with Chiara Lindloff & Ioannis Armoutis 19:38
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Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 01:40: Does Art require cognitive processes? Can't do Art without cognition. Is it a trivial matter, or is it worth discussion? 03:00: Cognition is an active process, it doesn't just happen to you. Why do we start to express something? Why is the observer separated from the creator? 05:30: The artist vs perceiver. Sometimes they coincide, but can we create without actively perceiving? 06:45: Do we think about what we want to communicate with art? Can we create and perceive only after rather than during? 09:05: Is there an art "area" in the brain? Has our brain developed a sensitivity to art? 12:00: Art in Nature? But that depends on your understanding of Art. Art vs Aesthetic experiences 15:15: Do artful experiences need to be beautiful? Perhaps for institutional art, the answer is no. But art in nature might just need it. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #110: In Prague, Alicia speaks about the social, communicative, and spiritual experience of art 18:22
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Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions with Alicia 01:05: Art for Alicia, Art influences everywhere. In your soul, in your blood, it's a daily thing, it feeds us 02:40: Cinema vs home-viewing during COVID. The atmosphere, the aura is different. The perspective differs. 05:00: The majesty of a bigger than life experience. But what does the majesty do for us? Perhaps it's a spark. Transformation through the context of the presentation. 08:00: The social experience as a part of consuming Art. Do we need that social exchange to understand what we perceive? The conversation can inform and change perspectives. 10:30: Is Art the product itself? Or is it the product and the institutional presentation of the product? There are lessons to be had. 12:00: A flower in the pot, perfectly ordinary. But in a different context, it's elevated and part of Art. 14:20: Nourishment through Art. Seeing more, feeling more, experiencing something higher. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #120 R.P. Peluce and Mia talk about censorship and the self-exploration of one's beliefs 24:46
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0:25 Philosopher Peluce asks participant Mia for her thoughts on censorship. 2:24 They talk about the concept of self-censorship concerning government censorship. It suggests that even in the absence of explicit government censorship, individuals may still self-censor due to societal conditioning. The idea of therapy and psychoanalysis is mentioned as a means of "unself-censoring" oneself and discussing topics, such as familial issues, in a safe environment. 7:45 Peluce suggests the importance of individuals being able to openly express, discuss, revise, and evolve their beliefs. 12;29 Peluce reflects on the process of socialization, comparing it to the development of a child's ability to express desires. The example of a baby learning to communicate its needs is used to illustrate this point, implying that as individuals grow, they also learn to express themselves more effectively and patiently. 16:20 They discuss the concept of self-censorship in interpersonal dynamics versus broader contexts such as government intervention. Mia struggles to think of instances where the government would intervene due to self-censorship. 20:30 They talk about the balance between freedom of speech and setting boundaries on harmful or hateful speech and reflect on the liberal approach to freedom of speech in the United States. 23: 20 Mia explores the difficulty of characterizing a category of speech that is harmful or derogatory, particularly concerning race, sex, or religious views. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #121 R.P. Peluce talks with participant Miriam about censorship, free expression and cultural appropriation 8:59
1:00 R.P. Peluce and Miriam discuss the negative impact of censorship, particularly in the context of online conversations where remarks can be permanent and easily accessible. 2:30 Miriam notes the emergence of cancel culture in the age of YouTube and online permanence. Also, she reflects on the illiberal nature of censorship and the importance of liberal ideals in facilitating open dialogue and the exchange of ideas. 3:30 They talk about the struggle to navigate conversations within their social justice-oriented cohort, where dissenting views are often overpowered. 4:20 They reflect on instances of self-censorship, acknowledging the tendency to refrain from certain questions or topics in specific social contexts as a means of self-protection. 6:30 Miriam reflects on a conversation with a friend who dismissed her experiences living in Africa as cultural appropriation, citing a specific example involving the Masai people in Kenya. 8:20 Peluce ponders how to acknowledge and respect instances of cultural appropriation while still valuing cultural exchange and sharing. They express uncertainty about finding a balance between these concepts and acknowledge the complexity of the issue. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #109 Resident Philosopher Fink speaks with Nele Köhler in Magdeburg, Germany (auf deutsch!) 14:43
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1 Episode #108 Resident Philosopher Sascha Benjamin Fink speaks (auf deutsch!) in Magdeburg, Germany, with the scholar of philosophical anthropology Prof. Antonio Roselli 21:02
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1 Episode #107: Hendrix speaks with R.P. Shottenkirk about how art can make the viewer feel as though they are being seen 12:03
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Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions with Hendrix 00:50: Is it about the purpose of Art? Defining cognition to boot. 01:50: Art is cognition, especially for the Artist. It comes from cognition. Pollock would approach Art differently from Picasso, likely based on the stimuli in their respective lives. 03:45: Emotion also comes from cognition. How you feel comes from how you think. A dog or a cat person, depending on our judgments, our emotions change. We bring our prejudices everywhere. Except in this case, regarding pet preferences 05:15: The way you capture the world depends on how you've seen it and how you've lived, even two close siblings can differ. Art functions as cognition for the Artist as a mix of judgment, emotion and other things. 06:30: For the viewer, Art & cognition stems from a stimulus you pick up from the Art. If a painting strikes you, brings complex emotions, it just might be cognition. 08:30: A Pollock piece brings the idea of being noticed. The chaos of the painting helps to bring out a personal feeling. It's not about noticing the chaos in the image, but instead noticing the chaos within. 10:30: If two individuals had the exact same events happen to them, would they become the same person? Are people intrinsically unique or are they purely formed through experience? Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #106: Danielle - Art, Fiction & Truth 26:39
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talkPOPc Resident Philosopher Dr. Dena Shottenkirk speaks with Danielle at the Center for Fiction in Downtown Brooklyn Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 01:00: What does Danielle think about Art? Defining cognition is step #1 02:10: Is Art cognition? Art allows people to process and express what happens inside their brain. It's a tool for the Artist. 04:05: Taking the inner experience and making it evident to outsiders. A 3rd person PoV of a 1st person experience 05:30: Art as the nugget of fun for problem solving. Art is a non-stressful way of solving problems, but maybe fun is not part of this 06:55: Does non-fiction count as Art? Writers think they're telling you a truth. 08:55: Cognition is part of reading. Any new information needs cognitive processing. Non fiction changes your experiences of the world and how you process. Jennette McCurdy's memoir and her experiences as an actor and how it changes a viewer's perspective. 13:10: Is Art a kind of cognition? Art adds to the picture. A year-long playlist, songs and connections to places/experiences/time periods. 15:05: Music and smell in particular make us recall time and place, but why? We edit visually, and perhaps auditory and smell don't operate exactly like visual editing. 17:25: You don't realize your senses in the moment until they're taken away or significant change occurs 18:35: Maybe music makes us remember where our bodies were at a specific time and place 19:45: Music places you in ways because it's auxiliary instead of primary. It's a background element. 21:45: Art is inherently connected to cognition. It's how artists process what they're going through, like an external hard-drive. It triggers a process of connection. 23:10: A corny violin at MoMA. Now it makes every violin trigger a memory/idea of corn Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #103 R.P. Sascha Benjamin Fink speaks in Magdeburg, Germany with students Bosse Schäfer, etc. 18:03
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Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 01:00: Initial thoughts on Art as Cognition, but what is Art? How do we define it? How do people make Art to show their perceptions to the world? Perceiving vs Thinking 02:50: What makes perceiving in Art different from just perceiving? Is Art special? It's intentional to start. Art takes a creative mind 04:00: The amount of sensory input from Art makes it different from conversation. There's an activation of the senses that makes the difference 04:45: Dadaism and the Fountain. Where's the intention that bridges the gap with Art and cognition? Right moment, right context. Removing the "Fountain" from the restroom makes it different. 07:30: Does Art have to be impractical? Or perhaps not accomplish a specific goal? Art is not about optimization and use, process over end goal. 09:00: If Art is impractical, why do we do it? Why do we seek it out? It's a way of expression and feeling different about the sensations in the world. 10:10: Non-sensational Art. How strongly are specific sensations associated with specific Art pieces? 13:30: Some things are done by the Artist and some by the Perceiver. A collaborative form. Almost a conversation between the artwork and the perceiver. 16:05: Reality is constructed, you need context. In a vacuum, things don't work. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #104 Three Universität Otto von Guericke students (including Ioannis Armoutis) discuss ontology, cognition, and art 39:10
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Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 00:50: Getting started, how do feel, what are we about, where are we from? 02:40: Brainstorming on Art. What is Art for us? From the point of an Artist, we don't think about it and let the subconscious work, or we focus our intentions through Art. 05:00: An experience can stop us in our tracks. We absorb the forms and forget everything else for a moment. What happens in the relationship of Art vs Observer 06:30: Art is a language, beyond our written/spoken. It's a language of world-building. We skip the process of translating and overdoing 07:40: In the beginning, we think we're an observer, not an Artist, but perhaps there's no true differentiation between the two. Are we all Artists? 08:55: The creation process is pivotal. Part of being a creator is deconstructing. It's a healing process of taking away the toxic things we've been taught. When you step into the observer's shoes, you're deconstructing. 12:00: When we process art and make it, we have analytical vs creative perspectives. How can we merge them? 13:45: Creative mothers and fathers. Portals to step through via Art. It's a beginning for others to make their own meaning. 17:20: Artist vs Observer is not a static position. The strongest Art comes from observation. Look within as an observer and create based on those inputs. 20:30: Where does Art come from? Do certain regions exist in the brain that constitute the thinking that drives Art? Genes modify behaviors as seen in other animals, but does this apply to us and our relationship with Art? 25:20: Unbroken cultures, the Aborigines and their land. Art as a topographical map and representations of the land over years. Process of communal creation over years. 28:00: Religion and war tend to go together. We make art from ground zero. Beginning again as a regenerative process. Where we're at mentally changes us, does it change our bodies? 31:30: The institution of religion is about power, especially in Europe. In other regions, religion is different as a tool to connect and not so much dominate. 34:30: Religious spirituality comes from within, does not relate to power but more so personal growth. It's a language to connect us. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #105 Magdeburg Paula Kaskel and Nele Köhler (in German) 11:41
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1 Episode #102: Estafania Soto Reyes and the Theatre of the Oppressed 22:07
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在第102集中,talkPOPc参与者埃斯塔法尼亚·索托·雷耶斯(Estafania Soto Reyes)与常驻液压Dena Shottenkirk博士谈论了位于布鲁克林市中心波隆斯基莎士比亚中心的小说中心和新观众剧院外面的被拥挤者剧院。 时间: 00:10:介绍 01:35:被压迫者剧院 03:20:观点转变。某些主题不一定适合社会。不同的观点和生活质量。有些东西很深,有些东西很浅。 06:10:根据观点,某些担忧变得微不足道。这同样适用于艺术吗?艺术的好坏受到古典主义的影响吗? 08:55:被验证的文化是西方的。全球语法。地区社区用于制作与地区相关的艺术。金钱和全球化改变了游戏的名称。 11:40:反对阶级主义和仇外心理的运动开始苏醒。还有我们很长的路要走 13:30:我们如何制作一个艺术故事并赋予地方方言合法性?评估你自己并检查你的观点。你的观点是阶级吗主义者? 16:30:怎样才能让电影既真实又能赚钱? 19:40:同化和文化。文化的生存意味着你无法同化。“国际风格”因此差异消失。 Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #101: Arliss speaks with Resident Philosopher Shottenkirk (his mother!) about 20th Century nihilism, God, and the role of art 24:55
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2:00-4:20: Arliss states that art had two phases: a hierarchical phase when it imitated music in structure. Like music has a tonic note to it, and art organized itself similarly with composition. But that "was shattered" at the early twentieth century with Kandinsky and Schoenberg who were doing work at the same time, and communicated. "From Schoenberg came horror music - the kind of music you'd score a horror movie to." 4:20-5:50: Arliss further explains that Kandinsky, before he was famous, was a fan of Schoenberg's. "I kind of think of Schoenberg as being the devil of music, basically." And they had a long correspondence. 5:55-6:13: Shottenkirk rephrases Arliss's position by saying that there was some kind of shattering of traditional structures, and that Arliss thinks it was a mistake. 6:13- 7:23: Arliss states that it was "deliberately a mistake". Schoenberg knew he was doing away with the structure he was taught. Was it a good thing? "I don't know" - it happened. And much of the art of the twentieth century is born of that shattering. "But it was a piece of a larger cultural movement away from traditional life; structuring your life around a belief in a God... it wasn't an accident that it followed on the heels of WWI." 7:25-8:49: Shottenkirk notes that when she wrote her book on censorship (Cover Up the Dirty Parts!) that this change in art was entirely the result of WWI, but Arliss is making the larger point that the demise of expected order in art is a broader sociological fact. 8:50-11:39: Arliss gives some history of literature in WWI. On the German side, Franz Rosenzweig wrote the "Star of Redemption" (on Judaism) in the trenches, and at the same time and on the other side Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings, which is a profoundly (Christian) religious book. It was about pre-Christian people, and about dying. "What Christianity and Judaism sought to do was to preserve a memory of yourself" and Lord of the Rings is about "primordial slush of dying peoples in pre-Christian people" and the "anxiety and angst before Christ visited them". 11:40-11:41: Shottenkirk states that it is not clear how this is a shattering of normality. 11:42-12:25: Arliss answers: This was the way life was organized until Schoenberg and Nietzsche, etc., disavowed God and the organizing principle of art and the hierarchy of things. 12:26-13:53: Shottenkirk summarizes Arliss's points. Before the 20th C: Hierarchy, natural law theory. After the 20th C: it is a horizontal world. 13:53-15:30 : Arliss expands on the nihilism of the 20th century. 15:31-16:33: Shottenkirk agrees that art doesn't make up the social world, but it articulates the social world. But asks Arliss about the role of art. 16:34-19:03: Arliss argues that we today have this conceit that we are creative, but in truth we today are totally self-absorbed. But in former times, such as with Bach, who thought only God was creative, there was the most creative of all art. 19:05-24:55: Shottenkirk disagrees and argues that the 20th C. was profoundly creative. Arliss agrees that wonderful art came out of it, "but doesn't know how to square it with my argument". Shottenkirk states that the way to square it is to say that it is nihilistic. Arliss ends by saying that art is not about gaining knowledge; the relation between art and cognition is that there isn't a connection. The reason we do art is so that we don't have to think rationally about the world all the time. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #100: talkPOPc at galerie Jilská14: Philosophers Dena Shottenkirk and Martin Nitsche: the Bridge between Continental and Analytic Philosophy 29:53
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Gallery Conversations: talkPOPc at galerie Jilská 14, Prague Artist and talkPOPc Founder Dr. Dena Shottenkirk speaks w/ Resident Philosopher Dr. Martin Nitsche on the Bridge between Continental and Analytic Philosophy 0 - 2:09: Shottenkirk: introduction of talkPOPc's radical reforming of both art and philosophy in order to emphasize the communal role of conversation. 2:10 - 3:39: Bridging Analytic and Continental philosophy 3:40 - 5:49: the importance of conversation in making this bridge 5:50 - 9:38: Shottenkirk asks Martin Nitsche about his book "Methodical Precedence of Intertwining: An Introduction to a Transitive-topological Phenomenology", where Nitsche writes on Husserl's refusal to have a clear divide between the subject and the object. Nitsche explains it is Husserl's argument against Brentano's reliance on Descartes. Husserl wanted to do a philosophy of holistic experience. 9:39 -10:11: Shottenkirk asks if anyone connects Husserl to William James? Nitsche says Husserl himself did. Shottenkirk notes that the connection is obvious. 10:12 - 12:00: Shottenkirk discusses gist perception which gives both objective and subjective information, arguing that the error of empiricism is a model of the object coming to the passive subject. 12:05 -12:59: Nitsche talks about using the Merleau-Ponty notion of intertwining where there is no division of subject and object; even though we can speak of us being here and being separate from the world, it is secondary and not the root of perception. 13:00 -13:48: Shottenkirk notes that perception has, at its root, the marriage of object and subject. The problem is how we explain experience and perception with these two married things at the beginning. There has to be a fluidity. That is also talkPOPc: a fluidity of things. 13:50 -15:21: Nitsche discusses Husserl's notion of phenomenological reduction; it is not solipsistic. It is re-transiting the attention to a new domain, focusing on the intertwining of subject and object; refocusing on the gist. (Here we have a merging of the analytic philosophy notion of gist perception with the continental notion of topological intertwining) 15:25 -19:40: The notion of reduction, with Nitsche introducing the notion of orientation - it is in favor of a more layered notion of experience, which is closer to the artist's experience. 19:15 - 21:59: Nitsche, by using the example of touch, talks about avoiding the solipsism of orientation: when we touch our finger to our other hand we are not just subject/object. 22:00 - 24:00: Shottenkirk notes that "restriction" is not "elimination". In vision science, semantic/high-level features are strictly different from low-level features. But that view tracks the objects out there, which is a problem. If one doesn't completely divide low-level from high-level, then one can experience those low-level things as not part of a strict object/subject divide. So, when we have the experience of finger going into the hand, it is an experience even though it's not named. The range of things experienced are way larger than the things that are named. Nitsche agrees. 24:01 - 28:00: Shottenkirk defines topology in general, with Nitsche then talking about topology in phenomenology. A picture of the world that is transforming. Philosophy is topology. Meaning is that thing that is always being constructed on the fly. 28:10 - 29:53: Shottenkirk: Let's bring it back to art. Once function that art is the way we understand the world - it provides for those topological transitions: this thing can suddenly mean that thing. I'm doing the same thing, but I' Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #99 R.P. Shottenkirk speaks in Prague at Jilska 14 gallery with William about art as paying attention 29:41
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时间: 00:10:威廉介绍 01:50:艺术是人们分享想法的表现。从他人和自我中获取知识。政治、对话开始、冥想的过程,这是一个范围 04:10:每个人通过不同的事物获得意义。对于威廉来说,它来自四面八方。最近,它自然而然地变得越来越重要 07:15:美学。并非所有的艺术体验都是令人愉快的。准确定位美学欣赏的高度更广泛的。 09:45:恐怖电影和跳伞首先获得了安全的要素,但对于悲剧的描述却有所不同。他们关注并提供深刻的知识。 13:45:关于艺术的体验帮助我们更多地欣赏美学,但不仅仅是关于美,而是它增强了体验。但我们如何定义美学呢?美学和走进画廊并体验一个陈列有什么关系? 18:30:“低频”与群体能量相关。关注周围发生的事情。美学是一种类似的感官体验。你在关注吗?足球比赛是一种审美体验吗? 22:15:随着我们对艺术有了更多的经验。我们可以更好地了解周围更广泛的事物。艺术可以让我们更多地了解感官体验。 23:30:从一张白纸开始。更多的经历充满了听力。加缪多种以及经历对于阻止/避免自杀念头的价值。 Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #98: Darell: "The Nugget of Fun" entertainment that is at the core of all art 22:33
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In Episode 98 of the talkPOPc Podcast, Participant Darrel explores Art as Cognition introducing what he refers to as "The Nugget of Fun" or the entertainment that is at the core of all art with Resident Philosopher Dr. Dena Shottenkirk at this summers outdoor pop-up conversation event series between the Center for Fiction and the Theatre for a New Audience at Polonsky Shakespeare Center in Downtown Brooklyn. Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 00:50: We care so much about Art, but why do we do this? Art is contextual. Could be pure entertainment, or a medium for learning about other people 03:45: Agency as a part of Art. Technique is a part of Art, but there's a nugget, an essence of entertainment that part of it. 06:40: Classical masters of Art. Telling stories through Art. Durable, catchy and getting us to think differently about ourselves and it promotes conversations 08:35: Art is like dress up. Art is like someone else's outfit you put on. How have I changed? Or is this dress just not for you? 10:50: Art linked to capitalism. It's impossible to get away and separate money from Art. After all, it doesn't grow on trees. 11:50: Pop music, gets you moving. Summer songs. Music has a way of pulling you back to a specific time and place. 14:00: Music as an embodied experience. You move and episodic memory kicks in. Songs are processed and become meaningful. 15:00: Compression of options. All in the middle, no peaks, no valleys. But there can be an element of playfulness. Music for consumption vs exploration 17:30: Taylor Swift. Commercial success first, exploration after having little to prove. 19:30: Black churches and experiencing music out of your body. Mind goes on autopilot it's fun. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #97: Edward - empathy, psychedelics, theatre and "Art as a Vitamin of Consciousness" 18:50
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Resident Philosopher Dr. Martin Nitsche of the Institute of Philosophy at the Czech Academy of Sciences in Prague peaks with participant Edward about empathy, psychedelics, theater and how "Art is a Vitamin of Consciousness" Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 00:55: Background and experiences with Art, especially Fashion. Art classes, comic books 02:35: Working class immigrant origins, and eventual exposure to theatre in NYC. Off-broadway shows and ephemeral aspects 04:10: How do performances affect our cognition? Maybe it's not cognition, maybe it's empathy and being able to relate 08:00: Art as a vitamin of consciousness. Psychedelics, the Sistine Chapel and being square. VR Ayahuasca trip 12:10: Irony and humor as moving forces in comedy. We can't really fake laughter. Laughter can be a release for us as an acknowledgement. 15:35: The pressure to use big words when it comes to art. This avoids actual expression. You have to experience the art 17:40: Concluding thoughts. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #96: Hazel - The Connection Between Love and Art 24:28
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Resident Philosopher Dr. Martin Nitsche of the Institute of Philosophy at the Czech Academy of Sciences in Prague speaks with Hazel during our Bryant Park Conversation Event about the connection between love and art. Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 00:45: Experiences with Art, Contemporary relationship with Art. Soothes our soul, but somehow not essential?? Akin to love 04:45: Art makes us feel alive, makes life worthwhile. What about love? It moves us 06:25: Art isn't necessary for survival, it never was. But at the same time, we've been doing art since the stone age. What fuels our desire to create, even though it's not essential 10:05: Productivity and Art. Do schools help fuel Art education? But is that the purpose of schooling? What would Art inclusive education give us? Success? 12:50: Art education in Europe and do we need education to appreciate Art? Perhaps so, it's not quite that simple to understand Art. 15:40: Is Art a luxury? Depends on your worldview. Light and luxury 18:30: Is love a luxury? Career over love, but love doesn't necessarily mean a relationship. 23:40: Hazel as Socrates and closing thoughts. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #95: Elizabeth - the non-commodity, transcendent power of art 19:16
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talkPOPc Participant Elizabeth talks with talkPOPc Resident Philosopher Dr. Martin Nitsche, Chair of the Department of Contemporary Continental Philosophy at the Institute of Philosophy at the Czech Academy of Sciences in Prague talks about the non-commodity, transcendent power of art during our summer public philosophy event in Bryant Park. Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 01:05: Renaissance, the arts, and what it makes us feel. Like we're in heaven, a connection to divinity 03:05: The aura of Art. Does the divine aura banish negative feelings/emotions? 05:25: Mona Lisa, Mother Mary and the religious feeling. Is it the ambiguous smile that strikes us? 07:40: Mona Lisa's new security detail. Tourists, cell phones and Mona Lisa's smile 10:20: Walter Benjamin, the origin of art, and the aura stripped away from modern art 11:45: Photographs are flat. Missing the 3rd dimension takes something away from the art experience. Yet paintings create space 14:00: Watching, seeing, creating art. All help with creating a space for thinking. Religion and Art are connected 16:30: Recent artists, Yoko Ono. Pretty good! 17:40: Street Art. Does it elicit the same intensity of the Mona Lisa? 80% says our guest Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #94: George Menz on art that is narcissistic or art that is ego-shattering 20:09
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talkPOPc Participant George Menz talks with Resident Philosopher Dr. Martin Nitsche, Chair of the Department of Contemporary Continental Philosophy at the Institute of Philosophy at the Czech Academy of Sciences in Prague about "art that is narcissistic or art that is ego-shattering" at our summer public philosophy event in Bryant Park . Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions, art preferences, entertainment and diversions vs enlightenment 02:00: Difference between cognitive art vs entertainment art might be a matter of narcissism 03:50: Do we experience art individually or in a community? On some levels it's individual, but other perspectives are part of it too. 05:40: Art as a method of philosophy and social sciences 08:30: Art as a scientific method and the capacity in experimentation/laboratory environment. The ability to use different perspectives 11:15: To what does art refer in today's age? Does it bring us closer to something else or is it merely self-referential? 15:00: The meaning of representation and immediate experience in corporeality. Music as the closest in the corporeal arts 17:30: General conclusions and performance. What makes one medium better than others in terms of understanding? Preferences for vision and something is lost if we overplay that hand. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #93: Amanda - How art creates a physical/psychic space 23:49
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talkPOPc Participant Amanda converses with Resident Philosopher Dr. Martin Nitsche, Chair of the Department of Contemporary Continental Philosophy at the Institute of Philosophy at the Czech Academy of Sciences in Prague about how art creates a physical and psychic space at our summer public philosophy event in Bryant Park . Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions, level setting 01:40: Art preferences, visual art, architecture and an eye for design 03:00: Importance of design and creation of spaces. With light comes energy 04:40: Music over television. Impacts on mood, evocative of time, place and people 06:10: Does design impact thought and purpose? 07:50: Visual and musical create environments. It's not just the living room that's full of art. The art creates the space 09:45: The immersion factor between visual and musical and how they affect your position 11:10: Stained glass, the play of light and color's impact on beauty. Paintings connected to light 13:55: Concrete jungle of New York. More green than you'd imagine. Public works of art accessible to the people as opposed to the private skyscrapers 16:10: Summer, light, community and immersion/engagement in the world 18:20: Garden as cognition? Landscape, thought, design and the creation of rooms/spaces 22:00: Conclusion and parting thoughts Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #92: Aharon - Individual PoV and how consensus is reached 24:51
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Our talkPOPc Fall 2022 Intern Aharon speaks with Resident Philosopher and talkPOPc founder Dr. Dena Shottenkirk about individual point of view and how we reach consensus. Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions, Consensus view of Art, and favorite forms 01:20: Art as a subjective form. Based on the person perceiving it and stories like Harry Potter 02:50: Not just narrative, but the experience as well. 5 readers and 5 vastly different experiences? 04:15: Game of Thrones, the general objective consensus view. How does it happen if the experience is a subjective one? Rejection of consensus 05:40: We get consensus on a superficial level. The layers of experience 06:35: Consensus on how "good" or "worth" something is. 09:00: Every new change is a new branching path to analyze. Nuances of our own thoughts aren't exactly neat and orderly. 12:00: Art as knowledge acquisition. When we experience anything, only we truly understand that experienced. We can't really share it. 14:40: How do we come to consensus and bring it out into the social world? 16:00: Different approaches. Government makes all rules, letting the philosopher kings rule, or we each pay attention to the subjectivities of others 17:40: Respecting the subjectivities too much. Maybe a bit dangerous to society. But perhaps we need to listen but not make it a rule. 19:45: Just because it happens to you, does not give you the final say on definition, but your PoV still matters 21:35: The objective does exist, and through that we build claims of universal rules. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions, philosophy and writing stories 00:35: Fantasy as a different side of human nature. Exploring potential cultures and understanding that something else is possible 01:20: Utopia and dystopia. Human causes and the hope of utopia 02:30: Deviating from human nature. The tag of deviant. What we should do is create an environment to adapt, rather than destroy 03:30: Daydreaming, writing and taking the childlike wonder into a useful object for society 04:30: A different way of imagining the world and inclement weather. Building blocks of society to make the fictional world feel realistic. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #90: Anastasia - Fiction and its power to teach you about yourself 12:20
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talkPOPc Participant Anastasia sits down with Resident Philosopher Carolina Flores and discusses fiction and its power to teach you about yourself. Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions, The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo and the complexities of being driven/ambitious 02:00: Non-continuous format as a part of the experience. 04:00: Getting lost in a fantasy world. Discovery of world-building. Imaginative and understanding aspects of fantasy 05:30: The impact of music. Being able to shape how you feel. The shape of our emotions, particularly in music. 06:25: A good story will likely tell you something about yourself. Recreation of experiences in the mind and how you'd act/relate. 08:45: Books don't just teach us about discovery. They can change who we are. 10:00: Evolution of story-telling. More accessibility and nuance in stories, both in format and content Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #89: Ehime Ora speaks with Dr. Carolina Flores about fashion, African fabrics, and political messaging 9:30
Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions, clothing as a form of expression and an art form 00:45: Craft vs Art. It's okay to be both, negative perceptions as a product of the art industrial system 02:15: Craft primarily done by women. Why do we view it as a lesser form? 03:00: Art is about intention and spirituality. We can do it if we set our minds to it 03:30: Culture as inspiration for art. It's a political performance and reclaiming heritage lost in a revolt against assimilation 04:30: Love of being Nigerian. A mother's influence and the audacity to showcase her culture in a different world 05:30: African fabrics as a living installation of art 06:30: Wood carvings, sculpting and the importance of craftsmanship in manifestation. Birthing a visual into existence 08:00: Political messaging and direct feelings in artistic expression. The foundation is self awareness. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #88: Jesi Taylor speaks about poetry and Sam Gilliam's work 13:05
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talkPOPc participant Jesi Taylor returns to discuss poetry, the artwork of Sam Gilliam, the material process of producing art, and what goes on in a curators mind and how that leads to how art is made. Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions, poetry and the Pace gallery 00:45: Sam Gilliam, abstract art and the use of color 01:45: Red April, the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King and the feeling of heaviness 04:30: The material process of producing Art and the use of abstract art for a political message. It's about getting people to feel something 07:00: How is it made? What goes on in the creator's mind that leads to this intentional art? 08:55: Aristotle's Ethics. Reading more into his life grants a new dimension to both the experience of the work and the work itself. An immersive perspective 12:00: The use of art as a therapeutic measure. Coming outside of yourself and immerse yourself in a therapeutic experience. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions, and art under dictatorship 01:05: Dictatorship destroys creativity and art is a sensitive item that symbolizes changes in society. Art becomes stagnant under dictatorial rule 01:55: The beginnings of dictatorship and stagnancy in Russia. A unique and simplistic style, not outstanding 02:50: Criticisms of non-individual art and propagandistic messaging. A contradiction of terms, impossible to have complicated messages and individual messages under dictatorship 03:55: Russian artists, and the posthumously published art. When you cannot speak about things, your thought is limited. Loss of ability. 04:40: Verbal expression as a means of embodiment of thought. If you write something down, it gets a special form of clarity. Just thinking is not necessarily enough 05:50: Costs of not being able to think and the lasting generational impact. Do we get these things back the moment we are free? People tend to catch up when they have the freedom to do so 07:00: Russia now as a copy of Western works. The same TV shows, films, books and cheap imitations. 08:00: Summarizing the chat. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #86: Levi - How understanding art is social and cognitive 11:03
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talkPOPc Participant Levi talks about how understanding art is social and cognitive with Resident Philosopher Carolina Flores at our spring Gallery Conversation Event outside of Postmaster's Gallery. Timestamps 00:10: Introductions, favorite things about Art and engaging us 01:05: What do we learn after rationalizing our responses to Art? Seeing how other see and sharing perspectives to get to know other people 02:00: Why cultural artifacts exist? What's special about art versus the news or some other stimulus? It's more confined, concise and intentional 03:45: Good art is polarizing and allows people to engage with ideas they'd otherwise avoid or with ideas they deeply enjoy. Gives us perspective on people that normal interactions can't 05:00: Horror movies, not wanting to engage with the negativity, but it's still art! Just art that takes us to an emotional space we don't enjoy. 07:40: Engaging with other's notions of art. Taking on their perspective and getting past self-limits. Immersive theater and the experience of immigrants that we can connect to 10:05: Artwork taking on a life of its own. An entity within interaction, an expanded idea of what we can engage with in the art world Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #85: Johny - The aesthetics of anime: classical art, expression and anime's sophisticated narratives 11:46
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Timestamps: 00:10: Introductions 00:30: Classical art, anime, and expression 01:15: The power of imagination in anime. Exaggeration of the real world. 02:30: Bleach, powers, discipline and going beyond the possibilities of the real world 03:35: Does enchantment inform the look and aesthetic of anime, or is it just the stories? 05:00: Anime as reality on steroids vs Western cartoons as impoverished versions 05:35: The importance of lessons in anime. Consequences, responsibilities and more sophisticated narratives from the real world. 08:00: Heroes, inspiration and cost. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #84: The talkPOPc Summary Episode - everything you ever wanted to know about the Philosophers' Ontological Party club 19:10
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Timestamps: 01:00: What talkPOPc is. Philosophy as Art, Art as Philosophy. 01:35: The start of talkPOPc 03:00: A different way of making art. The making and remaking of the same concept. 04:25: The Philly moment as an origin point for talkPOPc 05:20: The talkPOPc process. 06:20: The importance of conversation and getting data from others. From bars to bodegas, it's about what you think. 07:10: Art as Cognition, have to figure out Cognition, Art and how they relate. Not so easy 08:15: Art is not just beauty, some prissy thing in the world. Gist perception and identifying semantic categories. Art relies on these facts of how we work. 10:25: Art is that thing that just stops us in our tracks 11:45: Art affects us, physically, mentally, socially. 13:10: Art brings us closer to us, but to others as well. 14:20: Art as collaboration, the ship of Theseus, and shifting definitions/identities 14:50: Art in social narratives, identities. Art as a timestamp to legitimize history 15:30: Unconscious aspects of perception. Taking a break from thinking, but is it a break from thinking truly? 17:20: The team, gratitude and Popsey the CEO/avatar Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #83: talkPOPc on Montez Press Radio featuring Resident Philosophers Nicholas Whittaker, Carolina Flores and Dr. Dena Shottenkirk in conversation: "Philosophy as conversation", "Art as… 50:27
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Timestamps 00:00: Introductions, Experiences as Resident Philosophers and a bit of History 9 years running 01:20: Art and Philosophy. Both are just conversations. Building of thought 02:50: The tent, the stranger, the conversation. Sharing magical moments with the world 03:55: Nicholas, intimacy of philosophical conversation. People get intimidated by philosophy. "I don't know what cognition is" and pulling out the glimmer 05:50: Trust and the importance of the 1:1. No dominance, no right or wrong. Just collaboratively talking 06:40: Carolina chimes in. Serious conversations, but it's a bit exhausting. Completely attending to your conversation partner takes energy. Almost a loving perspective to give them the attention they deserve 09:10: The backboard/springboard for conversation and thought to take off. It takes being informal, there's no script and you process your way through the conversation. 10:30: It's hard to turn off the philosophical practice of theoretical frameworks. It's easy to listen, but it's dangerous if you try to fit your conversational partner's worldview into something else. It's about drawing out a worldview 12:50: Sascha Benjamin Fink and doing philosophy for the first time. Turning away from opinion jousting and instead turning towards collective consensus. 16:00: We don't know what we think unless we sit down to articulate it. Normally, our lives don't encourage that. The benefits of creating space for articulation of thought 17:20: No citations necessary. No goal/rule to chase. Just a sandbox to explore thoughts. An interface between two individuals 19:50: Sense of ownership in philosophical practice. You both own it, but neither of you own it. 21:50: The importance of ensemble. The massive amount of people that inform us, and a network of information. 24:05: Taking thought away from social structure and making it cooperative. Listening is the key. 26:05: Art as the thing that makes you stop in your tracks. 30:40: Experiencing the world as holding some impenetrable secret. There's something lost when we lose our sense of wonder. The richness of someone's inner life can get lost in the shuffle. 32:05: If you try to get too deep into the art, you won't get it. You'll miss the important essence of it. 34:05: The role of the puppet. It's static and permanently attentive 35:05: The attention gets you access to the value and builds it as well. Putting in the work to pay attention to someone. There's a sense of intimacy involved. 38:00: When you first start listening to music, you try to hunt for some secret. What's the secret value here? But as you listen more with care and attention, you find the personality in it. 40:30: Our emotions drive the way in which we learn. Love and attention help us construct things collectively. 42:30: Blindfolding and allowing yourself to trust someone. Anonymity takes over for the 30 minutes of the conversation. 44:30: The role of circus in making thought a joyful act. It's not exhausting, and you can make it fun. 47:50: Outro Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #82: talkPOPc Resident Philosophers Ian Olasov & Carolina Flores discuss narratives of group-identity, beliefs, racism, colonization, and how to restructure the future 23:41
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Episode #82: talkPOPc Resident Philosophers Ian Olasov + Carolina Flores discuss narratives of group-identity, beliefs, racism, colonization and how to restructure the future. Timestamps: 00:30: Narratives and their political/social role. The stories we tell are more negative, and we might miss something if it's all negative 01:55: What are the dimensions of badness...What's the role of identity? We want to feel proud of who we are, but the challenge is negativity. 04:10: The connection to identity. Belief in God and knowing "These are my people" 06:10: White people in America. Seeing things accurately and being the bad guy. Accurate but discouraging to the point of denying those narratives. The puzzle of accuracy and empowerment 09:00: We think of identity as a construct in the past, but we can think about the future as well. The thought of shifting perspective. Progressive identity, history and the future 12:50: Employing the utopian vision from the past as a mechanism to imagine what the future would look like 15:30: Movements unfold on different fronts. When people wonder about the role of philosophy, one of the fronts is theoretical. Policy exists on a similar level 17:00: Identity, while important, receives too much focus sometimes. Standpoint Epistemology. People that are members of an oppressed group have some special knowledge, but the way it gets metabolized is not exactly right. 19:55: Sometimes members of the oppressed class take on disadvantageous ideas. False consciousness and the reality of it. Engels' sociological work. Important work, but not by someone of the working class. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #81: Resident Philosopher Anatoly Nichvoloda in conversation with talkPOPc founder and Resident Philosopher Dr. Shottenkirk on art's basis in science 31:35
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Timestamps: 01:20: The relationship between Art and Epistemology. How does cognition work? How is Art a way for cognition to work? 02:15: The Smirking Mona Lisa. The peripheral perspective, rods, fovea and perceiving contrast 04:20: The sensors in the cornea. Color perception, detail, and Da Vinci's use of contrast built into his art and the fleeting smile of the Mona Lisa 06:20: The problem of zoom without peripheral information. The way for the brain to filter out less important information. Saccadic movement in the savannah 07:35: We're not meant to stare. Even dogs get it. 10:35: Compiling and adding up information. What's relevant to our attention? Constant computational processes through prediction. 12:50: We predict things, the search light of focus, but it's hierarchical. Bokeh and the blur of background as a metaphor. We like Bokeh because our attention works the same way 15:20: No divide between perception and cognition, the idea is that we're cognitive creatures. The world is a construct and we constantly re-make it. 17:55: Neural nets as the parts that deal with pattern recognition and statistics. Where the magic happens is de-coding. We predict what the world will look like and keep a copy of it. An algorithm of thinking 19:50: Pattern recognition. We can follow without explicit recognition. Rule following is pattern recognition. 21:25: Rules built on structure of implicit behavior that we don't think about. Otherwise, we'd be overwhelmed 24:25: Art as a unique concept for humans. Animals don't "do" art. When we can focus, Art activates all our systems, or at least brings them to the forefront. 26:35: Art notices. It points out what's interesting and helps us respond. Art tells a story and lifts the veil to show something interesting about you. 28:50: Art is that thing that makes you stop in your tracks. It makes you pay attention and try to figure things out. The genius of an artist is to notice it and build it into their art. 30:50: Why the color red bothers us. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #80: Andrey - "From Recording to Speaking" 41:15
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"From Recording to Speaking" - talkPOPc's Audio Engineer Andrey, the wizard behind the talkPOPc Podcast, joins us to continue our explorations into talkPOPc Topic #3 Art as Cognition Timestamps: 00:30: Science experiment on consensus in society. Proprietary thoughts, but not just our own. We owe others. 02:40: Using thought, springboards to develop our own thoughts. 03:30: Definitions of Art and Cognition 04:45: Art similar to Food. Picky eating doesn't make something bad 08:00: Separation of Cognition and Perception 09:30: Art is indicative of Cognition 10:35: Defining Intentionality 12:55: Do we need intentionality to view Art? 14:10: Cognition and the question of Why? 15:30: The question of Why in music? 18:15: Interaction of intention. Am I getting what the creator intended? 21:15: Collaboration across time. The experience of Art is collaboration 24:25: Agreed upon vs Objective. Are they the same? Exploring inter-subjectivity 28:00: Our need to agree varies based on the situation 32:30: Relatively of knowledge is accepted, but is it? How do we get social agreement and social facts? 35:40: The self as the Ship of Theseus 39:00: The past as a validation for the present Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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1 Episode #79: Taylor - Dreams, Sisyphus and meaning 19:21
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Timestamps: 00:20: Taylor's relationship with Art. The purest form to express the self. Being open to the world and finding Art in everything. 01:40: Freedom vs Meaning. Are there any limits to what we count as Art. It's unlimited, but it depends on you/your experiences 03:05: The natural world as Art. Beauty's role in Art. The beautiful mesh of natural and human. 04:30: Tendencies to surround the self with beauty. How does interior design/decor inform us of a person's mind? Even alone, we express ourselves for ourselves 06:30: Representing yourself is intentional. Expression is artistic and Art can be a form of something we're doing. We're real, gritty and natural 09:05: Posthumous Art and the role of intention. We share beauty, why keep it locked up away from the world? 10:45: Where does creativity come from in people? Is it innate intuition for the self? Can we point to it? A bit of a mystery, but we've been creative from the start. 11:35: Which aspect of the self are we expressing in Art? What counts as expressing the self? Do we need emotions in this equation? 13:35: Dreams as a vessel for Art. Even during mundane moments, we dream and add meaning through "making it fun" 15:40: The myth of Sisyphus. Pushing the boulder, can we find meaning or even happiness in it? If the boulder is all we know, could we find happiness? 18:00: The attitude of Art. It comes from us, it is not given from the outside. Support the show Twitter: @talkpopc Instagram: @talkpopc…
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