What It Means To Be Well with Dr. Shawn Ginwright

The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators

In this episode of The Exit Interview Podcast for Black Educators, Dr. Asia Lyons and guest host Stacey Taylor Brandon welcome Dr. Shawn Ginwright, a thought leader in education and youth development. Dr. Ginwright discusses his revolutionary concept of healing-centered engagement and the importance of self-reflection for Black educators dealing with racial battle fatigue and systemic oppression. Emphasizing the need for self-care and community healing, he shares insights from his acclaimed book, 'The Four Pivots.' He highlights practical steps leaders can take to foster wellness in educational spaces. Dr. Ginwright also underscores the vital role of Black women in caregiving, the necessity of establishing sanctuary spaces, and the importance of giving from one's excess rather than essence. Throughout the episode, the conversation delves into personal narratives, systemic challenges, and actionable strategies for integrating wellness practices into everyday life and professional settings.

P.S. The Exit Interview will record a live episode with Joy Delizo-Osborne at SXSW EDU 2025 on March 5th! Hope to see you there!

00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview

00:36 Meet the Guest Host: Stacey Taylor Brandon

01:30 Introducing Dr. Sean Genwright

01:43 Dr. Genwright's Work and Contributions

03:23 Welcome Dr. Genwright to the Podcast

04:39 The Importance of Self-Reflection

05:22 Racial Battle Fatigue and Healing

11:03 Balancing Care and Self-Wellness

21:32 A New Perspective on Motherhood

21:59 The Impact of Stress on Health

23:22 Applying the Four Pivots in Education

25:12 Personal Development for Leaders

26:52 Building Supportive Systems

31:48 Shoutouts and Acknowledgements

34:45 The Importance of Self-Care

40:16 Concluding Thoughts and Gratitude