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Rising from the Ashes: Restructuring Your Life

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In episode 19 of the new Awaken The Possibilities Podcast, Host Terry Wildemann interviews Christine Powers on "Rising from the Ashes: Restructuring Your Life”. Awaken the Possibilities Podcast features successful entrepreneurs and intuitive leaders who offer insights on how to attract success in business and life.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

About Christine Powers:


Christine Powers is a world-class soprano and inspirational leader who is a fierce guardian of

wonder and wisdom. She empowers leaders to go further and deeper -- pulling us all forward

into a transcendent world.


Founder of the Philosophers Camp movement, she has built a refuge for deep healing in the

Adirondack Mountains of New York that offers rejuvenation, learning, and co-creation while in

micro-momentary community.


Christine is a master energy worker and intuitive. Empower your voice through her musical

events, attunements, workshops, and adventure retreats.


Find Christine at www.christinepowers.com

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

About Terry Wildemann:

Terry Wildemann is the owner of Intuitive Leadership® and a Business and Resilience Accelerator, Speaker and Certified Executive Coach.


Terry's specialty is working with tired, unhealthy, close-to-burned-out entrepreneurs and professionals and helps them leap off the stress hamster wheel. They evolve into unstoppable stress resilient intuitive leaders and practical business mystics. Terry’s timely message guides clients and students to integrate intuition, stress resilience, positive communications and leadership with grounded business systems to achieve success by positively serving and influencing others. Her leadership experience includes owning a manufacturing company, image consulting company, leadership and holistic education center.


Website URL:: www.IntuitiveLeadership.com

Facebook Page: www.Facebook.com/intuitiveleader

Facebook Group: www.Facebook.com/groups/AwakenThePossibilities

Linkedin: www.LInkedin.com/in/TerryWildemann

Twitter: www.twitter.com/terrywildemann www.twitter.com/leaderintuition

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TRANSCRIPT


welcome everyone to this episode of awaken the possibilities podcast I'm your host Terry will demand of intuitive leadership and I love working with burned out and stressed out Yue primers who ready to leap off the stress hamster wheel of life and leap into calm ease and flow and the results are unstoppable resilient intuitive leaders and practical business mystics and as you know as you know the gas that I bring on the show all still backed they all help every single one of you who are listening to evolve into that unstoppable leader instead that practical business mystic because this information is needed I have such great gas and today I've got a wonderful friend who is also a mystic who has so much to share about being resilient dealing with catastrophic loss and so much more allow me to introduce you to the amazing Christine powers she is a world class soprano who I've seen break classes what is dimming grace that amplifies the amplifiers like takes a blank experiences she empowers servant leaders to inhabit their power and presence wider and deeper thereby naturally creating bigger and bigger ripples that awful up lift us all a former marketing PR communications and fundraising executive Christine is founder of the philosophers camp where she offers a refuge for people on sacred land in the Adirondack mountains today Christine speaks on purpose and power science and mysticism of sound and thriving after catastrophic loss she is a master energy worker and intuitive serving to hosting the two men's workshops retreats and adventure camps and welcome welcome welcome miss Christine to awaken the possibilities you are you know I I was giggling %HESITATION a little bit and I didn't want to make noise during your intro so I am delighted to be here it is so good I think this is the theme over so it's just really let's let it all hang out but this is like take twenty Hey at this level where we've been in there he was really quite funny anyway to be sure your topic because nobody can say that the way you do yeah how you been talking %HESITATION about catastrophic loss and resiliency and %HESITATION thriving after catastrophic loss there's so much ground that we can cover here %HESITATION that is pertinent to right now but pertinent to all time you know because being human and living on that we're going to have these these times of losses yes yes yes and what I know about the human condition and the human spirit is that when we do have catastrophic loss when there are really big challenges in front of us we truly do elevate ourselves elevate one another and shift into some amazing amazing situations that propels us forward and there is potential an opportunity even in catastrophic loss can you talk a bit about that because to me I don't see loss I feel badly for the losses that have occurred but I also see so much opportunity on so many levels yes so I have experienced catastrophic loss %HESITATION in my own life %HESITATION going back almost four years %HESITATION my family lost everything that we owns I including our two businesses and all of our every material possession in a fire that was rather historic and I look back on that now as being one of the greatest gifts of my life but at the time %HESITATION you know things that happen of that nature are really strangely wrapped gifts and we don't always recognize them where first of all we're in shock and then we can't escape the grief process and all those things that will come with it but one of the things that is so viscerally imprinted is that I came to a point where I was held by profound grace and when as an intuitive when I scanned the horizon right energetically it was so full of possibility because life had broken the rules right and I no longer felt obligated to play by the rules and this box had just fallen away and everything had been stripped away most of I mean when you don't have anything there's a great lightness about you and I realized over time that I state that are in that space for a few months because I just wanted to be there in the field of potentiality and I allowed things to begin to coalesce as they wanted to be created and I worked really hard to keep my mind out of it from all the things that I thought should be coming down the path and so by being really still and just following what we wanted to be an going decision by decision I built a whole new life and we have that available to us particularly at those times because our awareness is incredibly heightened and whether we know it or not were always holding grace were always held in grace so %HESITATION so to me %HESITATION times of great challenge and difficulty are really just the same side of the coin as times of great potential and opportunity and it takes a lot of it takes a village takes a community to support us to be able to be in that space %HESITATION and I think it takes a lot of %HESITATION spiritual maturity and wisdom to kind of be in that space and and and not to say that I was there all the time %HESITATION but that was my predominant place that I was after the fire and I remember when the fire happened and how catastrophic it was I just couldn't imagine and it's interesting because when I lost my backpack in March were lost my identity because everything was stolen I kept thinking of you because I'm like I don't lose the house I would lose my belongings I lost track you know but the thing was my identity was in that backpack my computer was in that backpack things that I you know that we consider pouring that backpack so just that small piece in many ways was catastrophic because it happened during the week where it was the week from hell I just leave it at that some really really intense things happen and it helped me understand what being visible with like is your identification when you lose your credit cards you lose everything you have no I. D. you become invisible and that taught me a lot but you what happened to you is what kept me grounded because I realized that this was just a bit this was a blip on the radar screen no matter how much you know how much of a pain in the neck it was and I thought violated I really did it because it was still on at the airport but it was in the house it wasn't my belongings it wasn't the things that meant a lot to me I mean there were things in there my pet my grandmother's jewelry was in there which I can't replace because it's Cuba you know but still it's nothing in comparison to what you went through you lost your home you lost your complete footing and back eight that's what I think we need to remember when big things when quote unquote big things happen to us that other people have gone through much bigger things and they still survive in there still opportunity so I'm curious what are the opportunities what are the potentialities the potentiality of what happened four years down the line when you turn around and look back at that I can you get about can you start with the end in mind and share with us all the wonderful potentiate opportunities that involved because of that catastrophic event yeah well the first thing that that comes to mind is %HESITATION and this is probably really pertinent to practical mystic hunter burners right %HESITATION we get wrapped up in %HESITATION leadership and what we're supposed to be doing %HESITATION and one of the things I began to learn was that part of why I like being in that space was because it was much easier for me to always be giving than receiving R. that's a big one it's the big one and then went near stripped away to nothing %HESITATION it was a huge opportunity for me to be vulnerable and soft and undefended and the the outpouring of love from the community %HESITATION from little things to big things was was really make sure it was majority for me it was growth for me because I was not used to being in that place I was used to being the one who would lead at or facilitate that so that's a huge opportunity with catastrophic loss in the first thing that I noticed another thing that I noticed was that I broke away from the shirts in the sense that %HESITATION I'll give an example of we received many donations of physical goods and some of the things that we received really didn't suit our you know our choices or lifestyle and we decline to them %HESITATION some furniture and different things what was fascinating to me was that %HESITATION people reacted negatively to that that we were so burning them and got offended and I found that fascinating because they're giving was was given with an agenda and I also found that a lot of people were also projecting onto us their own stuff and that came with the territory which was really fascinating and on the flip side one of the greatest gift that we got was from a guy who ran a hot dog cart right very simple guy didn't even know him but he heard about our fire he gave us three dozen hot dogs at three dozen hot dog rolls and even now it if it tears me up because it was what he knew to do and it was so from the heart and it was so simple but that like pierced me you know so I learned a lot about %HESITATION standing my ground for what was true for me and not %HESITATION my husband and I we had really deep discussions about this because we didn't want to offend anyone but we were being bombarded with stuff which was beautiful and some of it we really were going to be able to use or need %HESITATION and then the projections were pretty powerful as well to %HESITATION people kind of bringing their own stuff and and you know %HESITATION thrusting their their belief on how we should be doing things or what this man and %HESITATION %HESITATION so that was those were two really profound lessons that it really is huge and what I'm also hearing it is the word vulnerable you became vulnerable and in order to be able to receive that was a step that needed to be taken in there that that vulnerability piece so that you could discern what was actually going on because sometimes when you know those of us who are leaders who are constantly giving giving giving giving I know for myself that that's how I am I you know I was always giving giving giving giving giving and I still give a lot however I had to learn to be vulnerable and receive because you know to what it is that you were saying when you don't receiving your give them all the time you burn out from that and that is so so big up so one of the things that %HESITATION I wanted to mention to you is I just read recently that there is there were these trees where you needed to burn the land and burn the trees said that the pods the seed pods would burst and regrow are not regrow plant the seeds that are inside these pods are sooo so hard that only fire will allow the birth of the new CD came out I got a sense that images what came to me when you're sharing your story of the fire because everything got burned too in order for you to be able to allow that seed to explode out does that resonate at all because that image so intense we were sharing data it absolutely does %HESITATION you know it yeah it's it's really beautiful because I didn't realize how hard my shell had become and and the you know looking across the landscape of the four years of this receiving journey has been going on and all that time and that was what first made the crack %HESITATION and mmhm so that's probably one of the most profound things that I created on the potential of the horizon %HESITATION is a more a more soft more real where authentic me %HESITATION another thing that we shifted another lesson is that we have a smaller footprint we live much more simply and we travel more which was something that I always wanted to do but we the life my husband and I had constructed had a big mortgage and big overhead and an office rents in all of these things and again they should send the expectations of what my life should look like from my upbringing and I released those last remnants of you know being the daughter of a prominent attorney having gone to Notre Dame you know all these things that I was supposed to be in the world and I had been judging myself %HESITATION at some level this gave me the freedom to spirit of the family and as very inspirational because we live on a mountain on a hundred acres and that's a very simple life but we have a lot more freedom of our time and travel and what we do and I have to share with folks she's got a great little spot if you ever especially in this era of distant social distancing you plan to get away a little spot called new Glenn I am sure I will go ahead and my husband and I spent our anniversary there talk about falling into place it was one of those %HESITATION you happen to say in the post that you have that weekend open and my husband and I were just talking about what we can do for our anniversary better being better Bowman like it just happened and it is a beautiful beautiful place with a we call that kind of tent that you have it's a lotus ballots from New Zealand yeah it's in the shape of a lotus flower it is and it's beautiful and you're out in nature and it's one on your way from everybody so plug here for new glam sure %HESITATION because it really is just magnificent and you are really out there in nature and it is very high level camping I will say very high level camping absolutely wonderful and the land is beautiful there very very spiritual and I can see how dad is really still in your life because the area is that we explored that we walked in driving up in the tractor to the top of the mountain and I still use that picture in a couple of my means %HESITATION it is just so heartwarming and does bring you back to where you need today and I'm curious I have to ask this question Christine if that fire had not happened would you be at the helm of creating new glam sure number one and we ju have created the philosophers camp probably not probably not yeah yeah the the time the time after the fire when we %HESITATION what's so coincidental about it is that we were planning to move to the Adirondacks and there were pieces of both my husband and I that we're questioning what kind of business presence we should keep in Albany which is you know ninety miles away and the fire took away any opportunity like there was no portal like no portal to go back to our prior life in any way and so you know it's interesting for years I had wanted to do spiritual retreats at destinations and from I I judged as being not enough not enough I don't know where I had that belief but I held it for so long and now I'm like what is the log what okay so you know %HESITATION use me I just want but he sticks who cares yeah I I don't I don't think I would have because again I gave myself total freedom to create a new life that was joyful and simple and I'd let go of all of all the pressures of what I was supposed to be and the type of career at that point I was supposed to have that is such an example powerful example for others who are really having a hard time right now and as you and I both know that there are a lot of folks that are struggling and it's not something that self imposed the struggle is something that was imposed by outside forces just as the fire was an outside force for you just says my having my backpack stone was an outside force for me just like all this stuff is outside forces you do have a sense of loss in it and I don't know about you but I was it was lost it was indignation it was up anger frustration yes you had to go to vulnerability here I am at my age being taken care of I'm in ninety seven ninety four year old parents really got to be kidding me there is an irony to the world your them all the time actually you are feeding me there give me money they had to pay for my birthday that's what it was %HESITATION and it was and it was only for ten days but it was long enough for me to you know any time there's a loss of any kind whether it's a car accident %HESITATION you know losing your educate you not being able to graduate is a big thing right now what with your colleagues and friends what a sense of loss that is yeah what a story to tell your kids and what a story to share with others in a future life time you're there somebody said now that I read stop saying that there is a silver lining and everything because that means that there's clouds what if we look for blue sky think about that what if we look at every catastrophic situation has actually blue sky and when I hear your story that's what I see I see blue sky I see the sun shining so clearly I see the moon on the right side just peeping through as it gets a little bit more towards task I I just see such a brightness in that catastrophic episode that you experience and when I review all the catastrophic episodes in my life and other people's lives I see the same thing because on the opposite on the other side there so much possibility joy reflection %HESITATION or too needy and it's up to us whether we take it or not that is not so important that you say that because it is a choice it is an opportunity and that's why like anyone listening or watching this would be so wise to align themselves with you with your organization because when we're in the throes of grief and loss some head toward the bitterness and despair and they don't quite ever get out of it yes and so resiliency and having a team and having a coach and having a structure is really important because it's an opportunity it's not it's not the assured outcome the assured outcome could be a hundred and eighty degrees the other direction more yes absolutely but it is a choice and your writing thank you for sharing that with you know what Christine was referring to is the fact that we do body could emotion co tapping also very very tuned in to intuitively tuned into a lot of different things we can clear out a lot of the emotions that are created by such incidences that really get stuck in their bodies and become trapped in our bodies and don't allow us to move forward it's really important whether you're a business would be your leader what you know what you're a career professional matter what you are who you are it's really important to get rid of that emotional baggage that's caused by such catastrophic drama because if we don't clear it out it will sit in our body and it can contribute to illness and disease further down the line because it does reduce our immune system and and we know that we have studied how certain emotions are connected to certain organs and a lot of the diseases that we have are because the trapped emotions that trap baggage in those areas of our bodies so clearing that out is truly truly important %HESITATION so thank you for saying that and and that's what I was referring to yeah I referring to that and also your business expertise to be rather black to and and yeah and yes and yes you know %HESITATION you know in here %HESITATION being it heart of nature and being on the mountain you know a lot of that can happen here as well %HESITATION and so there's so many different ways to tend to the gardens of our souls and to tend to our emotional trauma %HESITATION and it's really important the work that you do in the and that's an essential piece to this with with the loss %HESITATION there is work to be done you know if the if there are clouds that come by and you know our essential nature is that blue sky %HESITATION and life happens you know it really happens so %HESITATION part of part of you know in part so here's the other piece that I learned about this you know looking for years later %HESITATION think about like the great gift that I was given of letting go of so much of the programming of my %HESITATION how it was raised and I'm not saying that it was bad and I I love my parents I love my family I'm grateful for my family but I had to let go of all the beliefs that I took on of how it was supposed to be and there's a lot of emotional baggage and a lot of trauma underneath all of that that needs to be cleared and that is in that an important aspect of leadership it's an important aspect of right now you know who we choose to be in the scope of the era %HESITATION you know it's not even about being heart centered is being passed and said this point and you know following the what you're really lit up about %HESITATION because that's going to pave the way to making an impact and being of service %HESITATION because it's a whole new paradigm and we are just at the beginning of the whole new paradigm yeah and so what's going to carry the day is what we choose to really lean into and and my suggestion is that we lean into what lights us up what we're passionate about %HESITATION because that will attract people to us and what we do and what we offer and speaking of letting us out one of the things that I know about you is that your voice was affected with this fire I would love for you to share with the audience how your voice your singing voice your speaking voice all of it was truly affected and your journey in finding your voice because I think that's really important right now people need to find their voices but there's that they're scared in many ways can you share about that Kristen yeah I think much you know if you if you just look back on the last twenty or thirty minutes of our conversation the result of all the things that I let go of the things that I just stepped out of an old paradigm enabled me to bring so much more freedom and I've always been a very gifted singer from when I I was singing before I could speak but somewhere along the way I also picked up all the beliefs of %HESITATION you know not being us up full on professional opera singer and the technique is everything and all this baggage that took my love of singing so far away that I really wasn't singing and so on the other side of the fire I claims my ownership so two things you talked about the you know the net to the seat in the forest %HESITATION I identify as fire wheat and dragons on so that the food you know the the fire weed is as vibrant gorgeous hot pink flower that is one of the first things to come back to life and if you see it in the field it's astonishing after fire and it is only from a fire %HESITATION and then dragon saga mark my capacity to seeing intuitively and to sing and healing capacity and to seal saying from total freedom to let go of the technique of being an opera singer and just to tell the stories I just wanted to become a storyteller so that's been freed now too so %HESITATION yeah I hate when I go to the top of the mountain and I sitting and it reverberates around for miles and %HESITATION and that has also been on leased and the icing in ways that again I had judged before as not being enough and dot I don't really care anymore it's it's a gift that I have that should be expressed however it wants to be expressed and as you can see if you're watching the video the tears of just been flowing I've no idea why okay indeed just erupted because yeah yeah we all have a hard time imagining you're not singing you have a beautiful beautiful voice and thank you for having the courage in stepping into courage of being in and finding your voice again and just really just letting it out there and I know that you have %HESITATION if I'm not mistaken thank you have a couple of YouTube videos of you singing there are yeah if you go let's see go to Christine powers if you search the channel %HESITATION it's pretty interesting net now I've actually started doing really esoteric stuff which is %HESITATION again it's it's like have being classically trained you know singing Mozart Puccini and Verdi though it and the now %HESITATION singing you know stamping my feet on the ground and just you know these sounds to the mountains and to the earth it's really different %HESITATION so yeah I have a couple of videos up a couple meditations and Terry here's the latest thing I don't I don't even think you know this yet %HESITATION this is this is perfect for everybody listening as it you know very powerful business past and doing philosophers camp I I'm also looking at what brings me joy and what is of service right now and I am starting to do what I'm calling angelic lullabies which are actually to help people transition who are dying I have a gift to go in intuitively and see the landscape and then I sing into discord and blockages and all kinds of things and then a lullaby in an intuitive message comes through and to be honest I've been able to do this for years and years but I've never acknowledged it or brought it forward so with courage with an open heart with vulnerability it's like it's simple and it's profound and it's what my heart is being you know my heart is calling it forward and it brings me joy so that's you know that's the invitation that I think you and I can give to everybody is really what is what it what do you being called to do and and this also speaks to you know what lights you up right now and then the pivot will take care of itself the business structures the business structures and all of that your that's that's what that's not how you start that's how you you bring it forth but the starting is is in this New World in this new paradigm where rules have been stripped away agreements have been broken it's a whole new paradigms so when you want to be when you want to do how do you want to serve what brings you joy what a great way to end this episode thank you so much for green beans or showing up so authentically and then your integrity for sharing your very personal story allowing me to ask some questions that I know you didn't expect but I know you and I you're one of your one of my most interesting and deep friends and colleagues like Chrysler all right thank you so much for being here into the Reagan the possibilities are endless I hope you really took away from names that there really is a possibility and opportunity whenever there is a catastrophe there are always is that seed explodes out if we choose to allow it to I'm Terry will demean your host thank you for being here today and I look forward on behalf of Christina myself look forward to seeing you next time to your success



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In episode 19 of the new Awaken The Possibilities Podcast, Host Terry Wildemann interviews Christine Powers on "Rising from the Ashes: Restructuring Your Life”. Awaken the Possibilities Podcast features successful entrepreneurs and intuitive leaders who offer insights on how to attract success in business and life.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

About Christine Powers:


Christine Powers is a world-class soprano and inspirational leader who is a fierce guardian of

wonder and wisdom. She empowers leaders to go further and deeper -- pulling us all forward

into a transcendent world.


Founder of the Philosophers Camp movement, she has built a refuge for deep healing in the

Adirondack Mountains of New York that offers rejuvenation, learning, and co-creation while in

micro-momentary community.


Christine is a master energy worker and intuitive. Empower your voice through her musical

events, attunements, workshops, and adventure retreats.


Find Christine at www.christinepowers.com

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

About Terry Wildemann:

Terry Wildemann is the owner of Intuitive Leadership® and a Business and Resilience Accelerator, Speaker and Certified Executive Coach.


Terry's specialty is working with tired, unhealthy, close-to-burned-out entrepreneurs and professionals and helps them leap off the stress hamster wheel. They evolve into unstoppable stress resilient intuitive leaders and practical business mystics. Terry’s timely message guides clients and students to integrate intuition, stress resilience, positive communications and leadership with grounded business systems to achieve success by positively serving and influencing others. Her leadership experience includes owning a manufacturing company, image consulting company, leadership and holistic education center.


Website URL:: www.IntuitiveLeadership.com

Facebook Page: www.Facebook.com/intuitiveleader

Facebook Group: www.Facebook.com/groups/AwakenThePossibilities

Linkedin: www.LInkedin.com/in/TerryWildemann

Twitter: www.twitter.com/terrywildemann www.twitter.com/leaderintuition

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

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welcome everyone to this episode of awaken the possibilities podcast I'm your host Terry will demand of intuitive leadership and I love working with burned out and stressed out Yue primers who ready to leap off the stress hamster wheel of life and leap into calm ease and flow and the results are unstoppable resilient intuitive leaders and practical business mystics and as you know as you know the gas that I bring on the show all still backed they all help every single one of you who are listening to evolve into that unstoppable leader instead that practical business mystic because this information is needed I have such great gas and today I've got a wonderful friend who is also a mystic who has so much to share about being resilient dealing with catastrophic loss and so much more allow me to introduce you to the amazing Christine powers she is a world class soprano who I've seen break classes what is dimming grace that amplifies the amplifiers like takes a blank experiences she empowers servant leaders to inhabit their power and presence wider and deeper thereby naturally creating bigger and bigger ripples that awful up lift us all a former marketing PR communications and fundraising executive Christine is founder of the philosophers camp where she offers a refuge for people on sacred land in the Adirondack mountains today Christine speaks on purpose and power science and mysticism of sound and thriving after catastrophic loss she is a master energy worker and intuitive serving to hosting the two men's workshops retreats and adventure camps and welcome welcome welcome miss Christine to awaken the possibilities you are you know I I was giggling %HESITATION a little bit and I didn't want to make noise during your intro so I am delighted to be here it is so good I think this is the theme over so it's just really let's let it all hang out but this is like take twenty Hey at this level where we've been in there he was really quite funny anyway to be sure your topic because nobody can say that the way you do yeah how you been talking %HESITATION about catastrophic loss and resiliency and %HESITATION thriving after catastrophic loss there's so much ground that we can cover here %HESITATION that is pertinent to right now but pertinent to all time you know because being human and living on that we're going to have these these times of losses yes yes yes and what I know about the human condition and the human spirit is that when we do have catastrophic loss when there are really big challenges in front of us we truly do elevate ourselves elevate one another and shift into some amazing amazing situations that propels us forward and there is potential an opportunity even in catastrophic loss can you talk a bit about that because to me I don't see loss I feel badly for the losses that have occurred but I also see so much opportunity on so many levels yes so I have experienced catastrophic loss %HESITATION in my own life %HESITATION going back almost four years %HESITATION my family lost everything that we owns I including our two businesses and all of our every material possession in a fire that was rather historic and I look back on that now as being one of the greatest gifts of my life but at the time %HESITATION you know things that happen of that nature are really strangely wrapped gifts and we don't always recognize them where first of all we're in shock and then we can't escape the grief process and all those things that will come with it but one of the things that is so viscerally imprinted is that I came to a point where I was held by profound grace and when as an intuitive when I scanned the horizon right energetically it was so full of possibility because life had broken the rules right and I no longer felt obligated to play by the rules and this box had just fallen away and everything had been stripped away most of I mean when you don't have anything there's a great lightness about you and I realized over time that I state that are in that space for a few months because I just wanted to be there in the field of potentiality and I allowed things to begin to coalesce as they wanted to be created and I worked really hard to keep my mind out of it from all the things that I thought should be coming down the path and so by being really still and just following what we wanted to be an going decision by decision I built a whole new life and we have that available to us particularly at those times because our awareness is incredibly heightened and whether we know it or not were always holding grace were always held in grace so %HESITATION so to me %HESITATION times of great challenge and difficulty are really just the same side of the coin as times of great potential and opportunity and it takes a lot of it takes a village takes a community to support us to be able to be in that space %HESITATION and I think it takes a lot of %HESITATION spiritual maturity and wisdom to kind of be in that space and and and not to say that I was there all the time %HESITATION but that was my predominant place that I was after the fire and I remember when the fire happened and how catastrophic it was I just couldn't imagine and it's interesting because when I lost my backpack in March were lost my identity because everything was stolen I kept thinking of you because I'm like I don't lose the house I would lose my belongings I lost track you know but the thing was my identity was in that backpack my computer was in that backpack things that I you know that we consider pouring that backpack so just that small piece in many ways was catastrophic because it happened during the week where it was the week from hell I just leave it at that some really really intense things happen and it helped me understand what being visible with like is your identification when you lose your credit cards you lose everything you have no I. D. you become invisible and that taught me a lot but you what happened to you is what kept me grounded because I realized that this was just a bit this was a blip on the radar screen no matter how much you know how much of a pain in the neck it was and I thought violated I really did it because it was still on at the airport but it was in the house it wasn't my belongings it wasn't the things that meant a lot to me I mean there were things in there my pet my grandmother's jewelry was in there which I can't replace because it's Cuba you know but still it's nothing in comparison to what you went through you lost your home you lost your complete footing and back eight that's what I think we need to remember when big things when quote unquote big things happen to us that other people have gone through much bigger things and they still survive in there still opportunity so I'm curious what are the opportunities what are the potentialities the potentiality of what happened four years down the line when you turn around and look back at that I can you get about can you start with the end in mind and share with us all the wonderful potentiate opportunities that involved because of that catastrophic event yeah well the first thing that that comes to mind is %HESITATION and this is probably really pertinent to practical mystic hunter burners right %HESITATION we get wrapped up in %HESITATION leadership and what we're supposed to be doing %HESITATION and one of the things I began to learn was that part of why I like being in that space was because it was much easier for me to always be giving than receiving R. that's a big one it's the big one and then went near stripped away to nothing %HESITATION it was a huge opportunity for me to be vulnerable and soft and undefended and the the outpouring of love from the community %HESITATION from little things to big things was was really make sure it was majority for me it was growth for me because I was not used to being in that place I was used to being the one who would lead at or facilitate that so that's a huge opportunity with catastrophic loss in the first thing that I noticed another thing that I noticed was that I broke away from the shirts in the sense that %HESITATION I'll give an example of we received many donations of physical goods and some of the things that we received really didn't suit our you know our choices or lifestyle and we decline to them %HESITATION some furniture and different things what was fascinating to me was that %HESITATION people reacted negatively to that that we were so burning them and got offended and I found that fascinating because they're giving was was given with an agenda and I also found that a lot of people were also projecting onto us their own stuff and that came with the territory which was really fascinating and on the flip side one of the greatest gift that we got was from a guy who ran a hot dog cart right very simple guy didn't even know him but he heard about our fire he gave us three dozen hot dogs at three dozen hot dog rolls and even now it if it tears me up because it was what he knew to do and it was so from the heart and it was so simple but that like pierced me you know so I learned a lot about %HESITATION standing my ground for what was true for me and not %HESITATION my husband and I we had really deep discussions about this because we didn't want to offend anyone but we were being bombarded with stuff which was beautiful and some of it we really were going to be able to use or need %HESITATION and then the projections were pretty powerful as well to %HESITATION people kind of bringing their own stuff and and you know %HESITATION thrusting their their belief on how we should be doing things or what this man and %HESITATION %HESITATION so that was those were two really profound lessons that it really is huge and what I'm also hearing it is the word vulnerable you became vulnerable and in order to be able to receive that was a step that needed to be taken in there that that vulnerability piece so that you could discern what was actually going on because sometimes when you know those of us who are leaders who are constantly giving giving giving giving I know for myself that that's how I am I you know I was always giving giving giving giving giving and I still give a lot however I had to learn to be vulnerable and receive because you know to what it is that you were saying when you don't receiving your give them all the time you burn out from that and that is so so big up so one of the things that %HESITATION I wanted to mention to you is I just read recently that there is there were these trees where you needed to burn the land and burn the trees said that the pods the seed pods would burst and regrow are not regrow plant the seeds that are inside these pods are sooo so hard that only fire will allow the birth of the new CD came out I got a sense that images what came to me when you're sharing your story of the fire because everything got burned too in order for you to be able to allow that seed to explode out does that resonate at all because that image so intense we were sharing data it absolutely does %HESITATION you know it yeah it's it's really beautiful because I didn't realize how hard my shell had become and and the you know looking across the landscape of the four years of this receiving journey has been going on and all that time and that was what first made the crack %HESITATION and mmhm so that's probably one of the most profound things that I created on the potential of the horizon %HESITATION is a more a more soft more real where authentic me %HESITATION another thing that we shifted another lesson is that we have a smaller footprint we live much more simply and we travel more which was something that I always wanted to do but we the life my husband and I had constructed had a big mortgage and big overhead and an office rents in all of these things and again they should send the expectations of what my life should look like from my upbringing and I released those last remnants of you know being the daughter of a prominent attorney having gone to Notre Dame you know all these things that I was supposed to be in the world and I had been judging myself %HESITATION at some level this gave me the freedom to spirit of the family and as very inspirational because we live on a mountain on a hundred acres and that's a very simple life but we have a lot more freedom of our time and travel and what we do and I have to share with folks she's got a great little spot if you ever especially in this era of distant social distancing you plan to get away a little spot called new Glenn I am sure I will go ahead and my husband and I spent our anniversary there talk about falling into place it was one of those %HESITATION you happen to say in the post that you have that weekend open and my husband and I were just talking about what we can do for our anniversary better being better Bowman like it just happened and it is a beautiful beautiful place with a we call that kind of tent that you have it's a lotus ballots from New Zealand yeah it's in the shape of a lotus flower it is and it's beautiful and you're out in nature and it's one on your way from everybody so plug here for new glam sure %HESITATION because it really is just magnificent and you are really out there in nature and it is very high level camping I will say very high level camping absolutely wonderful and the land is beautiful there very very spiritual and I can see how dad is really still in your life because the area is that we explored that we walked in driving up in the tractor to the top of the mountain and I still use that picture in a couple of my means %HESITATION it is just so heartwarming and does bring you back to where you need today and I'm curious I have to ask this question Christine if that fire had not happened would you be at the helm of creating new glam sure number one and we ju have created the philosophers camp probably not probably not yeah yeah the the time the time after the fire when we %HESITATION what's so coincidental about it is that we were planning to move to the Adirondacks and there were pieces of both my husband and I that we're questioning what kind of business presence we should keep in Albany which is you know ninety miles away and the fire took away any opportunity like there was no portal like no portal to go back to our prior life in any way and so you know it's interesting for years I had wanted to do spiritual retreats at destinations and from I I judged as being not enough not enough I don't know where I had that belief but I held it for so long and now I'm like what is the log what okay so you know %HESITATION use me I just want but he sticks who cares yeah I I don't I don't think I would have because again I gave myself total freedom to create a new life that was joyful and simple and I'd let go of all of all the pressures of what I was supposed to be and the type of career at that point I was supposed to have that is such an example powerful example for others who are really having a hard time right now and as you and I both know that there are a lot of folks that are struggling and it's not something that self imposed the struggle is something that was imposed by outside forces just as the fire was an outside force for you just says my having my backpack stone was an outside force for me just like all this stuff is outside forces you do have a sense of loss in it and I don't know about you but I was it was lost it was indignation it was up anger frustration yes you had to go to vulnerability here I am at my age being taken care of I'm in ninety seven ninety four year old parents really got to be kidding me there is an irony to the world your them all the time actually you are feeding me there give me money they had to pay for my birthday that's what it was %HESITATION and it was and it was only for ten days but it was long enough for me to you know any time there's a loss of any kind whether it's a car accident %HESITATION you know losing your educate you not being able to graduate is a big thing right now what with your colleagues and friends what a sense of loss that is yeah what a story to tell your kids and what a story to share with others in a future life time you're there somebody said now that I read stop saying that there is a silver lining and everything because that means that there's clouds what if we look for blue sky think about that what if we look at every catastrophic situation has actually blue sky and when I hear your story that's what I see I see blue sky I see the sun shining so clearly I see the moon on the right side just peeping through as it gets a little bit more towards task I I just see such a brightness in that catastrophic episode that you experience and when I review all the catastrophic episodes in my life and other people's lives I see the same thing because on the opposite on the other side there so much possibility joy reflection %HESITATION or too needy and it's up to us whether we take it or not that is not so important that you say that because it is a choice it is an opportunity and that's why like anyone listening or watching this would be so wise to align themselves with you with your organization because when we're in the throes of grief and loss some head toward the bitterness and despair and they don't quite ever get out of it yes and so resiliency and having a team and having a coach and having a structure is really important because it's an opportunity it's not it's not the assured outcome the assured outcome could be a hundred and eighty degrees the other direction more yes absolutely but it is a choice and your writing thank you for sharing that with you know what Christine was referring to is the fact that we do body could emotion co tapping also very very tuned in to intuitively tuned into a lot of different things we can clear out a lot of the emotions that are created by such incidences that really get stuck in their bodies and become trapped in our bodies and don't allow us to move forward it's really important whether you're a business would be your leader what you know what you're a career professional matter what you are who you are it's really important to get rid of that emotional baggage that's caused by such catastrophic drama because if we don't clear it out it will sit in our body and it can contribute to illness and disease further down the line because it does reduce our immune system and and we know that we have studied how certain emotions are connected to certain organs and a lot of the diseases that we have are because the trapped emotions that trap baggage in those areas of our bodies so clearing that out is truly truly important %HESITATION so thank you for saying that and and that's what I was referring to yeah I referring to that and also your business expertise to be rather black to and and yeah and yes and yes you know %HESITATION you know in here %HESITATION being it heart of nature and being on the mountain you know a lot of that can happen here as well %HESITATION and so there's so many different ways to tend to the gardens of our souls and to tend to our emotional trauma %HESITATION and it's really important the work that you do in the and that's an essential piece to this with with the loss %HESITATION there is work to be done you know if the if there are clouds that come by and you know our essential nature is that blue sky %HESITATION and life happens you know it really happens so %HESITATION part of part of you know in part so here's the other piece that I learned about this you know looking for years later %HESITATION think about like the great gift that I was given of letting go of so much of the programming of my %HESITATION how it was raised and I'm not saying that it was bad and I I love my parents I love my family I'm grateful for my family but I had to let go of all the beliefs that I took on of how it was supposed to be and there's a lot of emotional baggage and a lot of trauma underneath all of that that needs to be cleared and that is in that an important aspect of leadership it's an important aspect of right now you know who we choose to be in the scope of the era %HESITATION you know it's not even about being heart centered is being passed and said this point and you know following the what you're really lit up about %HESITATION because that's going to pave the way to making an impact and being of service %HESITATION because it's a whole new paradigm and we are just at the beginning of the whole new paradigm yeah and so what's going to carry the day is what we choose to really lean into and and my suggestion is that we lean into what lights us up what we're passionate about %HESITATION because that will attract people to us and what we do and what we offer and speaking of letting us out one of the things that I know about you is that your voice was affected with this fire I would love for you to share with the audience how your voice your singing voice your speaking voice all of it was truly affected and your journey in finding your voice because I think that's really important right now people need to find their voices but there's that they're scared in many ways can you share about that Kristen yeah I think much you know if you if you just look back on the last twenty or thirty minutes of our conversation the result of all the things that I let go of the things that I just stepped out of an old paradigm enabled me to bring so much more freedom and I've always been a very gifted singer from when I I was singing before I could speak but somewhere along the way I also picked up all the beliefs of %HESITATION you know not being us up full on professional opera singer and the technique is everything and all this baggage that took my love of singing so far away that I really wasn't singing and so on the other side of the fire I claims my ownership so two things you talked about the you know the net to the seat in the forest %HESITATION I identify as fire wheat and dragons on so that the food you know the the fire weed is as vibrant gorgeous hot pink flower that is one of the first things to come back to life and if you see it in the field it's astonishing after fire and it is only from a fire %HESITATION and then dragon saga mark my capacity to seeing intuitively and to sing and healing capacity and to seal saying from total freedom to let go of the technique of being an opera singer and just to tell the stories I just wanted to become a storyteller so that's been freed now too so %HESITATION yeah I hate when I go to the top of the mountain and I sitting and it reverberates around for miles and %HESITATION and that has also been on leased and the icing in ways that again I had judged before as not being enough and dot I don't really care anymore it's it's a gift that I have that should be expressed however it wants to be expressed and as you can see if you're watching the video the tears of just been flowing I've no idea why okay indeed just erupted because yeah yeah we all have a hard time imagining you're not singing you have a beautiful beautiful voice and thank you for having the courage in stepping into courage of being in and finding your voice again and just really just letting it out there and I know that you have %HESITATION if I'm not mistaken thank you have a couple of YouTube videos of you singing there are yeah if you go let's see go to Christine powers if you search the channel %HESITATION it's pretty interesting net now I've actually started doing really esoteric stuff which is %HESITATION again it's it's like have being classically trained you know singing Mozart Puccini and Verdi though it and the now %HESITATION singing you know stamping my feet on the ground and just you know these sounds to the mountains and to the earth it's really different %HESITATION so yeah I have a couple of videos up a couple meditations and Terry here's the latest thing I don't I don't even think you know this yet %HESITATION this is this is perfect for everybody listening as it you know very powerful business past and doing philosophers camp I I'm also looking at what brings me joy and what is of service right now and I am starting to do what I'm calling angelic lullabies which are actually to help people transition who are dying I have a gift to go in intuitively and see the landscape and then I sing into discord and blockages and all kinds of things and then a lullaby in an intuitive message comes through and to be honest I've been able to do this for years and years but I've never acknowledged it or brought it forward so with courage with an open heart with vulnerability it's like it's simple and it's profound and it's what my heart is being you know my heart is calling it forward and it brings me joy so that's you know that's the invitation that I think you and I can give to everybody is really what is what it what do you being called to do and and this also speaks to you know what lights you up right now and then the pivot will take care of itself the business structures the business structures and all of that your that's that's what that's not how you start that's how you you bring it forth but the starting is is in this New World in this new paradigm where rules have been stripped away agreements have been broken it's a whole new paradigms so when you want to be when you want to do how do you want to serve what brings you joy what a great way to end this episode thank you so much for green beans or showing up so authentically and then your integrity for sharing your very personal story allowing me to ask some questions that I know you didn't expect but I know you and I you're one of your one of my most interesting and deep friends and colleagues like Chrysler all right thank you so much for being here into the Reagan the possibilities are endless I hope you really took away from names that there really is a possibility and opportunity whenever there is a catastrophe there are always is that seed explodes out if we choose to allow it to I'm Terry will demean your host thank you for being here today and I look forward on behalf of Christina myself look forward to seeing you next time to your success



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